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        12-21-2012, 07:52 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Your best bet it to go to the gun store or shooting range and handle them see what fits your hands best and one that you can hold one handed without shaking. If you find a gun you like but the grips are too big you can get new grips for most of them. You need to comfortable with a gun to shoot it properly and safely.
         
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        12-21-2012, 07:55 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Glock 19 Gen4 | G19 Gen4 | 9x19mm | GLOCK USA

    This is my personal favorite. I have very small hands and many of the full sized 9mm's are hard for me to hold. This one has adjustments that are good for smaller handed folks.
         
        12-21-2012, 08:24 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Also, here is what the FBI says about handgun effectiveness. It has a lot of stuff to think about. In shootouts, including those with cops, you too often see that someone emptied 12-15 rounds without ever hitting anything. TV teaches us he who shoots fastest is invulnerable. In reality, a handgun is no shield. You cannot prevent someone from shooting back. You can only be certain that if your shot hits, he'll be paying some sort of price, and is less likely to shoot someone else.

    That is why my approach is to take the extra 1/2-1 second and aim, at least a little. Although hopefully I'll never have to shoot at all...

    FBI report:

    http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf

    The famous Miami shootout, where the bad guy killed a couple of FBI agents even after being fatally wounded:

    "This clip is from the 'made for TV' movie entitled "In The Line Of Duty" staring David Soul. On April 11, 1986 a firefight ensued between 8 FBI agents and 2 known murderers/bank robbers Michael Platt and William Matix. This is arguably the most documented and analyzed firearms shootout in modern history. Before the fight was over, FBI Special Agents Jerry Dove and Ben Grogan were killed by .223 gunshots from a Ruger mini-14 at the hands of Michael Platt. Platt himself had sustained 12 gun shot wounds (9mm, .38 and 00 shot) but continued to fight killing both Grogan and Dove. Toxicology reports on Platt and Matix found no evidence of drugs or alcohol in either man. This fire fight and the resulting aftermath were the genesis of the 10mm and .40 S&W rounds."
         
        12-21-2012, 08:31 PM
      #14
    Trained
    My biggest fear when carrying a fire arm, and I've been extensively trained, is that someone would get the drop on me and take it away. That happens more often than people know. Taking good, safe, firearms training and LOTS of it, along with doing a lot of target practice needs to really be part of a weekly or monthly (at the least) routine. Taking a second to breathe in, aim, and fire on exhale will help with accuracy but adrenaline can really mess with you. The department I worked for had a policy that if you pulled your weapon and shot, and didn't hit your target, was an automatic 3 day remedial training course at the range. The more training and repetition you have, the more likely your are to actually hit something if you need to shoot.

    Also, should be mandatory reading: http://www.paxtonquigley.com/ She' has authored several good books about being female and being armed, the liabilities and responsibilities of gun ownership.
         
        12-21-2012, 08:33 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    Glock 19 Gen4 | G19 Gen4 | 9x19mm | GLOCK USA

    This is my personal favorite. I have very small hands and many of the full sized 9mm's are hard for me to hold. This one has adjustments that are good for smaller handed folks.

    I'll second this. I learned how to shoot on a glock and it was a very easy first gun.
         
        12-21-2012, 09:56 PM
      #16
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    The Well Armed Woman
    Gun Talk Radio : Tom Gresham's Gun Talk Radio Show : High Powered Talk Radio (the website for the radio program)
    GunTalkTV - The #1 Online Resource for Gun Training (<< Watch all of Tom's videos. Covers a WIDE range of topics.)

    I currently carry a Ruger LCP. I adore the little thing, but the smaller the firearm is, the harder it is to shoot. You will need a lot of range time to learn it. I am saving up for a Kimber .45.
         
        12-21-2012, 10:03 PM
      #17
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    Originally Posted by churumbeque    
    I have been hand gun shopping and each place has a different selection but no one really has several I want to hold and compare. I want something user friendly, easy to conceal if needed, meduim price range and comfortable. What do you women use.
    I am single, do not carry a purse, afraid I won't remember which vehicle I left it in. My sister has a sig sauer 380 (which I haven't found locally yet)
    The salesman is suggesting a bersa 380
    PLEASE stay away from any gun made by Bersa. They are cheap unreliable guns. I would never trust my life to one. I had a Sgt who was shot twice with a 9mm. Luckily, it was a Bersa and it jammed preventing any more shote and he survived. Most Law enforcement consider it a Saturday Night Special.

    Go with one of the reputable brands like Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Glock, Sig Sauer etc. As for small and concealable, if you want a .380, which is a decent smaller caliber for close range, I have (and really like) the Sig model 232. Don't get the older 230, as they made real improvements with the 232.


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        12-21-2012, 10:09 PM
      #18
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    PLEASE stay away from any gun made by Bersa. They are cheap unreliable guns. I would never trust my life to one...
    Odd. I've heard the exact opposite. I don't own one and have never shot one myself, but the ones I've held seemed nice and the owners said good things about them. FWIW - my handguns are all S&W or Ruger. Pretty hard to go wrong with either of them!
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        12-21-2012, 10:11 PM
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    I also carry the extra tiny Kel-tec 3AT. It is a .380 but so tiny you can fit it in your pocket. Kel-tec is a lower quality gun and they have been known to have spotty quality control. I bought two 3AT's and one was great out of the box....the other needed to be sent back TWICE for minor tweaks before it shot reliably. I love it because I can carry it on my ankle, while on-duty and I never know it's there.

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        12-21-2012, 10:11 PM
      #20
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    Bsms, many don't mind the Bersa. I have seen good ones and I have seen bad ones. Like the Kel-tec, they can be unreliable in their quality control. I wouldn't carry it without having a gunsmith go over it. Like I said with info added to my first post, if my Sgt had been shot with a gun that had not jammed on shot #3, he may not have survived. That gun was a Bersa.

    I am a quality snob, for the most part. My guns are , mostly, top quality and pretty much customized for me.
         

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