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        12-23-2012, 12:43 PM
      #61
    Cat
    Green Broke
    Okay smarty - mags that jam. I was just going by what everyone around here calls them. My point still stands.
         
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        12-23-2012, 01:06 PM
      #62
    Green Broke
    Then everyone would be wrong, and we can dispense with the profanity laced name calling.
    This websight is about learning. Sorry if that offends you. Lots of terminology errors about horses people point out everyday. SOrta like the difference between horse shoes and hoof boots, two different items.
         
        12-23-2012, 01:08 PM
      #63
    Yearling
    I've only shot one a couple times but a buddy of mine carries one as a back up. It's a small Kel-tek 380. He added a clip to it. He carries it in his bulletproof vest front pocket under his uniform shirt and off duty he just clips it to his pocket. I looks like a pocket knife with the pocket clips. Wouldn't even know its a gun and not just a kinfe that everyone else carries around here.
    I love my sig sauer but they are pricey. My dads off duty gun was a sig 380. I believe it was the 232 but not sure. Is service gun was the 226 which is a GREAT gun.
    My wifes duty gun is a glock 40 cal. I believe the 22 or 32 can't remember. I like the glocks but prefer the sig sauer. They just feel better to me.

    A good option is always a good old 38 s&w. No jams and easy to operate.
         
        12-23-2012, 01:20 PM
      #64
    Green Broke
    I have messed around with the keltec 380, kinda low budget and not super durable, but they do work and are reliable, and will hold up nicely to the ocassional practice sessions. The side belt clip makes for handy front pocket carry. All in all good to have guns.
    226 is a terrible gun for most women. Its shortcomings were the source of most of my female students problems. Most of whom had to qualify with one, and there inability to do so combined with male geared instruction was why they came to see me. Sigs best features are its ability to win government contracts. Now I am not talking the whole line, they make good stuff, its just the double stack service pistols don't fit women well.
    Sig 226 as a large square grip that doesnt fit smaller hands. It also has a long back strap to trigger span. BAsically smaller hands and shorter fingers have a harder time reaching the trigger, on over extended trigger finger causes lots of trigger torque and lots of low and left bullet holes. Another drawback and why you don't see them much in action type pistol competitions is the high bore axis. IE the gun recoil flips up instead of straight back, making follow up shots difficult and slower. This tendency also causes it to be suseptable to limpwristing. While this almost never happens with male shooters, women need to learn propper grip to avoid it. Ever bounce a basketball on soft ground ? It doesnt bounce up. Autoloading pistols can do this when not firmly held, the slide doenst come forward and the gun fails to eject or feed. IE jams. The lighter the gun or the more muzzel flip it has, the more likely this is going to be a problem. One of the reasons Glocks are so popular with women and competition shooters. The hand is very high so most of the recoil is straight back.
         
        12-23-2012, 01:52 PM
      #65
    Trained
    Clips vs Magazines is an argument for hardcore gun fans. I've received lectures on the error of calling a 45 colt cartridge a "45 Long Colt". I figure I can get anal about that sometime after I figure out a way to convince the media that an odd looking gun isn't an assault weapon, and that a gun with more than one bullet (or cartridge, if you want another argument) is an "automatic". Until then, I figure anyone who supports private ownership of guns can call things anything they darn well please.

    That's the sort of thing that makes me hate gun shops. When I bought my 5-shot J-frame S&W, the guy selling it felt some overwhelming need to lecture me on how REAL MEN carry a 17 round Glock and at least 2 clips - er, magazines - every time they go to the john, in case a ninja jumps out of the shower. Once the paperwork was done and I had possession of the gun, I told him real men don't need 17 rounds to put one on target...
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        12-23-2012, 02:30 PM
      #66
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    I like the Sig 226, but opted for the Sig 229 because of the size, I do like the fact they can take the +p+ ammo for true self defense

    Both are for large hands, but I agree neither is a great target pistol, of course either is better than my Ruger P89

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        12-23-2012, 03:47 PM
      #67
    Green Broke
    Heck I have been corrected for calling a firearm a gun.
    I was told, that what a man has between his legs is a gun and a firearm is a weapon.
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        12-23-2012, 04:57 PM
      #68
    Trained
    Odd. I've never called anything between my legs a gun. Now I understand why folks get worried about having guns confiscated!
         
        12-23-2012, 05:36 PM
      #69
    Green Broke
    I don't use the word weapon because the firearms I own have never been used that way.

    It's a term the liberal media uses to describe firearms and I see it as a negative.

    Gun is another word the liberals like to use.

    This is my rifle
    This is my gun
    This is for fighting
    This is for fun!
         
        12-23-2012, 06:14 PM
      #70
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gunslinger    

    This is my rifle
    This is my gun
    This is for fighting
    This is for fun!
    This is also what the person told me.
    I have no idea what his political persuasion was, but he was in the military.
         

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