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post #1 of 317 Old 09-24-2010, 09:59 PM Thread Starter
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your thoughts on suicide

I am looking for opinions on do you think a person who commits suicide goes to hell? I know that the only person that can answer this correctly is God. But I would like to know people's thoughts.. if you have verses to back your opinions up feel free to post that too..


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I don't think they go to hell. But I don't believe in the Christian version of heaven or hell. I believe in reincarnation, that souls come back many times.

Suicide is a horrible thing, however, the people that do it honestly feel they have no other way. Were I actually a Christian, I'd be hard pressed to believe in a God that didn't intervene in the first place before the person got so bad they had to take their life.

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I don't think they go to hell. But I don't believe in the Christian version of heaven or hell. I believe in reincarnation, that souls come back many times.

Suicide is a horrible thing, however, the people that do it honestly feel they have no other way. Were I actually a Christian, I'd be hard pressed to believe in a God that didn't intervene in the first place before the person got so bad they had to take their life.

It is ashamed to have grown up in a christian school wherefore all you know is christianity.. I have came to the realization I am not religious.. but I am a believer for my own reasons.. still I want to study other religions/beliefs..

I get different stories towards suicide and what people believe.but I find it interesting hearing the different sides. And it helps give me answers.. or thoughts to ponder on

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I grew up a Christian, then I learned the truth. That's what I tell people.

I think it's great you are interested in learning other religions. It's very eye opening!

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I honestly don't know what I believe when it comes to stuff like that. Sometimes, I see it as a coward's way out, but other times I can understand where that person is coming from.

I knew an older gentleman from a nearby town. He'd had so many little skin cancers cut off of his face and ears over the years that he was horribly deformed. He was leary of going out in public because of the stares and the fact that he often scared little kids. For about the last 2 years of his life, he refused to even leave his house; his son would bring him groceries and run all his errands for him. I guess one day he had had enough and ended his life. This guy was one of the sweetest, most honorable men you could ever hope to meet, a true gentleman. I don't believe that he would go to hell for making a choice like that. You know, people always say that God would never put us through more than we can withstand? Well, I don't think God has much to do with what we go through and whether or not we can stand it. I think it is more the luck of the draw. In the words of Forrest Gump "**** happens". Just sometimes, a whole lot of **** happens to one person and they end up buried.

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I grew up a Christian, then I learned the truth. That's what I tell people.

I think it's great you are interested in learning other religions. It's very eye opening!

How'd you learn the truth? Like through friends? Research?

I've learned never just shut your mind off to one belief.. even if you do not agree be willing to learn about things. And if you don't agree then you don't agree. Oneday we will all know the answers and what is right..

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Through breaking away with what the preachers were teaching and researching on my own. I spent over two years discovering that almost everything I learned at Church was a lie. From the religious holidays that so many christians even now do not know were built upon Pagan ones to the phony healings that so many preachers claim to be able to do. You'd be amazed at how much christianity took from Pagan beliefs.

I studied various world religions, took a couple of college courses. Did a lot of reading and online research. Talked to people that followed varoius religions. Talked to people that walked away from christianity.

I felt completely betrayed by the christian religion.

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I see where you are coming from..

People say soo many times what you said .. oh its a cowards way out.. I question their belief, saying well if you had a choice to kill yourself or your kid/brother/parents.etc.. what would you choose.. I mean there are many types of suicide but some people make it out to be well you kill yourself you go to hell, end of story.. and I just don't belive that..

Some people are in such excruciating pain day in and day out that they feel that is the only way to end the pain. I do ask myself well why not go to somebody? Get help? Anything? ... but then I look back and realize on past experiences some honestly feel like there is noone there.. no matter how much you show they care its like something tells them they are lying..

In reference to when you talked about God not having a part in what we deal with. I have also asked myself if God never gives us more than we can handle then why would someone get pushed past their limit to the point of suicide?

So many questions... not enough understandable answers/reasons.. lol

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Hmm.. That makes me want to think about taking a college course on religion.. Very interesting... *researching right now* lol... ah! Iv gotten off the topic I was researching lol dadgumet lol

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I think it takes a hell of a lot of courage to kill yourself. Your body's instinct is survival so doing something that purposely goes against that presents some serious conflicting drama in your head. However, some things are just so bad, that you can push yourself past that and be able to do it.

Your point is right on about what God gives people that they can handle. I questioned that for years as I seen friends and family go through horrendous things.

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