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post #221 of 317 Old 09-30-2010, 03:49 PM
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So what do you think about the OPs question, SR?

Do you go to hell if you commit suicide?
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post #222 of 317 Old 09-30-2010, 03:59 PM
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I believe that those who are terminally ill and in unremitting pain should be allowed to die on their own terms, and at a time of their own choosing.

Do I think those people are going to Hell? No, I do not. We'll ease a suffering animal with no chance of survival out of this life, so why would it be a sin to do the same for a human being?

What I don't agree with is someone who is depressed taking their own life, when they have no other limitations due to pain or ailments.

I know all about depression. It runs rampant in my family. I have an aunt who's tried to take her own life several times. After intensive therapy and medication, she now understands that killing herself isn't an option.

I myself have been through hell and back with depression, and I just can't see using it as an excuse to kill yourself. I understand the attraction, but I can't condone it. Is it a sin? I honestly don't know, because when someone is in the deepest depths of a black depression they're not thinking rationally, which in and of itself is an illness.

If I won't condemn someone for killing themselves when they're not in their right mind, what more compassion do you think God has for them? After all, He loves them more than I ever could.

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You can't see using it as an option. That doesn't mean a lot of people don't. Medication and therapy do help many. They don't help all though.

Your God's ways don't apply to others that don't follow him. So what happens to them in the afterlife may be completely different.

The thing I've never understood about Christians is, why they can't let people follow their own Gods. Forcing their beliefs on others is just wrong. If people come willingly, great. But to tell people they are going to hell if they don't believe is beyond my understanding. And I used to be one of those people and now have a lot of guilt for it.

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Solon, what in my post led you to believe that I was condemning anyone?

My opinion is that I don't condone it, but I'm certainly not going to say someone will or won't go to Hell if they take their own life.

Mental illness is as debilitating as physical illness. I most certainly understand that.

I'm not asking you to follow my beliefs, I'm merely stating what they are. Isn't that what this whole thread is about? Stating one's beliefs?
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You can't see using it as an option. That doesn't mean a lot of people don't. Medication and therapy do help many. They don't help all though.

Your God's ways don't apply to others that don't follow him. So what happens to them in the afterlife may be completely different.

The thing I've never understood about Christians is, why they can't let people follow their own Gods. Forcing their beliefs on others is just wrong. If people come willingly, great. But to tell people they are going to hell if they don't believe is beyond my understanding. And I used to be one of those people and now have a lot of guilt for it.

What I don't understand is why you make it sound like christians are the only ones that do that. Another thing I dont understand is why people have to judge others because what they believe in. Because, in the end, christan, catholic, methodist or whatever religion it is, as long as you believe there is a God that took his life to wash away our sins- we all end up in the same place- so we need to stop labeling names, and learn to like eachother.

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Speed Racer - I'm talking in generalities about the last half of my post.

Wanna - I've only seen Christians do this. I've never seen Pagans, Hindu's, Buddhist's, Taoist's or any other religion with such a massive converting program.

Your statement is very judging. As long as they believe Good took his life to wash away their sins. That's not the belief for many religions. I've found Christians to be the most judging people in all the religions.

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that belief is the truth

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No, it's not.

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Solon, I do agree with you about Christians being the most 'judgey pants' of all the world's religious, right up there with the extremist Islamists.

I try not to judge someone based on my particular beliefs. They work for me. If they don't work for someone else, that's fine.

My beliefs are an amalgamation of many things, and there are quite a few Christian doctrines which I simply cannot take to heart because I feel that they're wrong.

Ultimately, I believe that we are put in this life to help each other. That is the lesson we need to learn. Regardless of color, creed, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation, our only goal should be to help ease the suffering of others. Diversity is good not evil, and it's not my place to judge or coerce someone into believing as I do.

The fact that I believe Christ is the Son of God doesn't make me better than anyone who believes He isn't. It also doesn't make my beliefs right for anyone except me.

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I really wish more people thought like you Speed!

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