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post #301 of 317 Old 10-01-2010, 02:04 AM
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The way you speak about it and say "Who hasn't" shows me you do not understand it. There is a difference between fleeting thoughts of suicide and having a clear plan of how to do it or trying it.

Have you ever been raped? I have. I am trying to type clearly hear but I am having a very difficult way with how you are presenting your thoughts. By saying they are weak, you are implying that it is easy to be strong. That anyone can just go on after being raped for FOUR YEARS and be okay.

This is why people are afraid of asking for help.
I don't think you're a bad person. I think you're very ignorant.
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post #302 of 317 Old 10-01-2010, 02:07 AM
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I attempted it. A couple of times. I also tried to get myself hospitalised to get help and they wouldn't admit me.

There was an awful lot of judgement in your post.
There is no judgement in my post - you're all assuming that I know nothing of it. To me the people who were weak were those who weren't helping you. And just because someone is weak at one point does not mean they can't become strong again. The people I have the utmost respect for are people who have been through hell and back and have the scars to prove it.

I went through a faze where I was enamored with death. I couldn't figure out what the point of life was. No matter how nice the things around me were, the feeling inside never matched. I started popping pills, cutting myself to feel good because I thought I did something to deserve that. Then one night I got a high that scared the hell out of me. And I never did it again because it made me realize there is nothing worth losing my life over.

So if you think I'm sitting here judging people who committ suicide or even consider suicide you are wrong. I am saying they are weak because I was weak. I can't even imagine feeling that way because I'm so blessed with the little things around me.

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Again. Please try and reword your statements then because the way you are portraying yourself comes off as very ignorant.

By saying 'You are weak' it comes off as you are weak as a person and what you are going through is not difficult.
The fact of the matter is that I am a extremely strong person. But at that moment, I no longer had the will to be strong any longer. That does not make me a weak person. It is important in such a subject to make the distinction.
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I'm going to stop commenting on this because at this point I don't think anything I say is going to help in any way, and I'm not trying to make anyone feel less about themself. I stated my opinion and clearly I didn't give enough information to make ya'll feel comfortable with me saying my opinion. And that's fine but that's all the personal information I am really going to put out their for now. I'm definitely not trying to be rude about this, but obviously what I'm saying is upsetting people so I'll just put my foot in my mouth before I say something worse! I apologize for making anyone feel bad!

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Again. Please try and reword your statements then because the way you are portraying yourself comes off as very ignorant.

By saying 'You are weak' it comes off as you are weak as a person and what you are going through is not difficult.
The fact of the matter is that I am a extremely strong person. But at that moment, I no longer had the will to be strong any longer. That does not make me a weak person. It is important in such a subject to make the distinction.
I guess the best way to describe it (how it looks in my head) is that any person, even the strongest person, is capable of being weak. I have seen the strongest people (my husband & dad) completely helpless. And I have seen the most helpless people be strong. Just because you are weak at one point does not mean you will always be weak and is not a judge of character - the people who survive it are that much stronger.

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That much I can agree with we have a moment of weakness.
The way you just described it does not sounds judgemental at all. Much better than the first post :)
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I'm sorry, I'm horrible at putting my opinions on paper without making it sound that way! I really wasn't intending for it to come out that way!!!!!!!

Can I not delete my post if someone replies to it?

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It has to be within the first 10 minutes of posting and you can edit it to say something else. Not sure how long its been. Theres a button at the lower right hand side of your post and it will say "edit" if its still available.
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Yeah it expired. Thanks though and sorry for the misunderstanding - I'm not mean at all, I promise!

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Sorry I jumped down your throat. Don't mean to scare you away from posting. Thanks for explaining what you meant.
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