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post #41 of 317 Old 09-24-2010, 11:19 PM Thread Starter
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I'm pretty sure most people on this forum aren't too worried to say what they think!! It's a good topic.

Ok well maybe not this forum.. this one is quite nicer than other forums I am on.. I mean dang.. someone expresses thier thoughts and BAM! Instinct accusations are made

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I am also of the opinion that if my beloved old friend Buck and my best pal Spot aren't in heaven, then I don't wanna go.

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I'll say this, horses have literally saved my life more than once. My Duke was one of those horses. And now my Solon is that way for me.

Horses are great therapists!

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I am also of the opinion that if my beloved old friend Buck and my best pal Spot aren't in heaven, then I don't wanna go.

Same here! But I believe my baby will be there waiting for me to ride him off into the heavens! I love that horse forever, even after death

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post #45 of 317 Old 09-24-2010, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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I'll say this, horses have literally saved my life more than once. My Duke was one of those horses. And now my Solon is that way for me.

Horses are great therapists!

I can say I completely relate...

For many months, Duke was the reason I lived.. he was the thing that kept me going.. It seemed like I knew he loves me and that is all I cared about was his love.. I mean you can tell.. You put me on him and we are a perfectly matched team.. with out disagreements(backing up for one lol) but you put someone else on him and im NOT around him.. the instructor that uses him says he is so bad and bucks and turns into a different horse.. that just proves the bond people share with their horse.. I wouldnt trade that feeling of love for anything, not a guy, or anything else.. cause nothing could ever compare

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I'll say this, horses have literally saved my life more than once.

So true.
I can honestly say, I don't know where I'd be without Athena.

For someone who has pretty much self-diagnosed themselves with PMDD, I can understand what it's like. For one to two weeks out of the month, I get hit with depression hard, and I've thought about things that at any other time of the month I would never even consider. (And yes, I'm going to the doc about this. )

I don't think someone would go to hell because they committed suicide. I think someone would go to hell for rape, murder, etc. I also think it's complete crap that if the worse criminal asked for forgiveness on his/her deathbed that he/she would get into heaven. Forgiveness my butt, spend eternity in hell!


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As someone who has been in the position where suicide felt like the only solution, I can not call it the coward's way out. When I hit that place, I honestly believed that the people around me would have been far better off without me. I thought that ending my life was the best thing for my friends and family, because then they wouldn't have had to put up with me. The only thing that stopped me and made me realise I had other options was my now fiance showing up at my house and dragging me out and doctoring me. I am diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder so I have a lot of issues with coping with everyday stresses.

It does take a lot of strength to pull yourself out of a place like that. And I can guarantee that when you are in that place and you recall being told that suicide is the coward's way out, it doesn't make you feel like fighting. In fact, it's another hit to your strength.

At least that's my take. Sorry if it didn't make a lot of sense.

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Never forget that the person who goes to hell, where suicide is concerned, is the person left behind; the mother, brother , sister, lover , child . ..
Would you wish HELL upon anyone you cared about?

Sorry, but I have a pretty closed mind regarding suicide.
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Wow, there is a lot of honesty in this thread, and some posts that I don't agree with like the one above me, however it is still honest, but I can see the point, that the family goes through hell.

Let me say clearly at first that I don't believe, and am athiest, this is not the same as saying that I am anti God, it is just not for me, and I respect those who believe.

My feelings are that suicide comes down to 2 points, either you are so sick and in so much pain that you can not continue, or that you have mental health issues. The first is obvious and needs no explaination, the second is really complicated, as often the mental health issue feels normal and does not need treatment, when this is the case, and even with treatment it takes a long long time to find the right answer.

This might seem controversial to those affected by it, but if it is a mental health issue, then you are not in the right mind to make a decision about suicide.


I feel terrible that our society leaves fragile people alone unless help is sought. I feel terrible that there was a knee jerk reaction to instituations being closed because they were such a mess, rather than reforming them, leaving the most fragile people living on the streets. There is something very wrong with us as a society.
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This might seem controversial to those affected by it, but if it is a mental health issue, then you are not in the right mind to make a decision about suicide.

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I completely agree with this statement. I also do not believe that it takes courage to commit suicide. Courage is dealing with what you are most afraid of. When a person commits suicide, I believe it is because the fear of the pain that they are dealing with in their lives outweighs the fear of death. Those that seek help are the courageous ones.

I am reminded of my favorite quote:
Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway-John Wayne

I think it pertains to life as well. I can think of one thing that could happen in my life that would be so tragic that it would be easier for me to kill myself than live another day. If God forbid, this thing happened to me, then I would not be courageous for committing suicide....I would be (in my mind at least) choosing the path that is easier.

I do believe in God. I don't think anything is ever as black and white as saying someone will go to hell for committing suicide, though.



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