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post #41 of 131 Old 05-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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Most of those who are recovering addicts don't go around looking for the sky to fall. They tend to generally be grateful for the life they've been given back, and vow to live it to the fullest. Very few of them scream doom and gloom at every news story.
How many do recover though? From what I've read those on "hard" drugs have slim chance of full recovery. I'm going OT here, BTW, it's not really related to the situation itself.

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post #42 of 131 Old 05-30-2012, 03:50 PM
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Is it not terrifying that someone you love could become a victim of these drugs or a user of these drugs? Is it not terrifying to think that this could happen on YOUR back door or to YOUR family? I don't want to live in a world like that, and while no, I don't go around cowering or hiding, I believe a healthy awareness and yes fear, are two things that are going to stop things like this from happening again.
No one can force them to take drugs really.. in the end it is up to the user/potential user. You can educate your family and friends, but they will make their own decisions. I have family and friends wrapped up in drugs, but I don't dwell in fear or try to scare others over it.
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There's no such thing as a completely recovered addict, Val. They're always going to be in a state of recovery, and that goes for alcohol as well as the harder stuff.

Yes, the recidivism rate is staggering, but for every 10 that don't make it, there are still 1 or 2 that do. To me, even 1 person who successfully beats an addiction is a win.

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The only thing I can sy to OP- you are in the wrong state if this stuff is so surprising to you. I lived in south Florida almost my entire life. It was bad when I was a teenager and just got worse. Yes, this is a terrible tragedy. A grusome reality check. But walk into any night club in Ft Lauderdale or south Beach, someone in that club is on drugs, usually quite a few people.

It is horrible to believe that you become numb to this type of thing, and I guess you truly don't, but I have learned to take it all with a grain of salt. Florida is a $#~! hole. I moved away from the madness. Do drugs exist elsewhere? Absolutely, but not nearly like they did in florida. OT but the one thing that amazed me between FL and NC was just from watching the news. Florida was murder after murder, rape, assults, car jackings- there wasn't even time on the local news to go over anything 'good' happening in the area.

Or if there was some type of festival, the headline would read "Festival to support artists leaves 2 dead and 1 fighting for their lives." "School bully taught a lesson, went back and pulled a gun on his classmate." In NC you hear about the robbery, and the kidnapping, and the fires. Murders are not 5 headlines a night. They have time to go over the positive things going on in the metro area." What goes on in florida sucks. Its sick, its sad, but it is not as prevalent everywhere. Do yourself and your health a favor, leave that crazy place and find something more suitable for you.
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I've never been a fan of Florida, especially the ocean side. The gulf side is a lot quieter, but the decent weather and proximity to Cuba and the Keys is always going to bring the bad stuff to the mainland.

Gangsters and oldsters; the most prevalent of Florida's residents!
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I just really don't understand why someone would take drugs in the first place..... :/

And this is some new drug? I mean why the heck even make any new drugs. There are enough freaky deaky drugs out there to satisfy the crazies.

Just really stupid and that poor man who was attacked. Naked or not, young or old.. he didn't deserve that.

I usually don't judge people like this but.. I really don't think it's justifiable to take drugs and then harm someone.

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Yes, the recidivism rate is staggering, but for every 10 that don't make it, there are still 1 or 2 that do. To me, even 1 person who successfully beats an addiction is a win.
Yes, recidivism is what I meant. I'm afraid statistics is worth than 1 per 10, but I agree that even 1 in 20 (30, 40) IS a win.

I've read that in some countries there are camps that bring druggies back "hard way" (no medications, just work-work-work). Works great for some of those people, but some are broke mentally after such a "treatment".

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There's no such thing as a completely recovered addict, Val. They're always going to be in a state of recovery, and that goes for alcohol as well as the harder stuff.
Cigarettes too! Any addiction really. (coming from a smoker).



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Is it not terrifying that someone you love could become a victim of these drugs or a user of these drugs? Is it not terrifying to think that this could happen on YOUR back door or to YOUR family? I don't want to live in a world like that, and while no, I don't go around cowering or hiding, I believe a healthy awareness and yes fear, are two things that are going to stop things like this from happening again.
There is not one single thing that can stop this from happening again.
The world is an ugly place, in fact the more you know, the uglier it is.
If you are so freaked out I would recommend not bringing your own kids into the world - and maybe working with at risk kids who could potentially turn out to be the crazy.

I'd bet my life someone probably many people knew this person was unbalanced before this event happened. I'd also bet my life that not too terribly many people did anything about that. I'd also guess that before he was a totally batsh1t adult, he was a damaged young man - when he was not threatening and people could have reached out to him.

How many parents know 'troubled' kids at their kids schools? A good number. How many do something, offer support, anything - not many.
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Well let me just grab my shot gun here....

*goes and baracades self in house preparing for zombie apocalypse*
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