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post #31 of 76 Old 04-26-2012, 07:53 AM
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My wife has the same bow. And loves it. But some advise for you. Switch that rest, Go to a real whisker biscuit. That should help you out alot.
You're kidding, right?
Thee biskit is good to 30 yards or so.
The issue being that the arrow spine can't fully do it's job due to being stuffed through an itty bitty hole, which negatively affects accuracy.
Ever take a look at a bunch of arrow rests?
Watch the improvements as you go up the price steps....theres a reason for that.
Top of the line arrow rests are in the 150+ range.
Cant drive a Cadillac for the price of a Yugo!
The biskit is popular due to being cheap, full containment, and fairly idiot proof.

As an aside, here's my bow lineup:
2006 diamond victory, AAE DOA, Trophy Ridge 7 pin, DCA Stabilizer
2012 Obsession SS, AAE Pro Drop, Spot Hott SDP 7 pin, DCA Carbon Stabilizer
1984 Oneida Screaming Eagle (wall hanger)
2007 PSE Reflex Expression, Shibuya sight, Bstinger stabs, AAE KSL Brass tab, AAE Gold Plunger, FreeFlyte Elite
2011 Samick Sage, AAE ST300 Hunter
I shoot Easton and HTA carbon arrows, AAE Max line of vanes (2.0 shields and Max Hunters), Easton micro S nocks, slick trick broadheads, and Carter releases.
My girl's bow is a PSE Bos Madness XS, Truglo sight, Pro Drop rest, Easton arrows, Trufire release.

For what it's worth, i read all these comments about "not liking the bells and whistles of a compound", and a variety of other aspects of compounds.
The simple, irrefutable truth is that a compound is easier to shoot well than a recurve is, because it eliminates a lot of the inconsistencies a recurve shooter experiences.
A compound has a "back wall" you pull into that essentially acts as a limiting stop.
That gives consistent arrow speed, which translates to consistent arrow flight, and point of aim, point of impact consistency.
Pin sights are pretty simple too. Place the pin on the target, and let fly.
Releases virtually eliminate archer's paradox, which fingers shooters have to tune out as best they can, using a plunger setup.
Want to shoot caveman style recurve, like in Hunger Games?
Good luck. I've been shooting the better part of 35 years, and i still suck at it.
But, with my 3D rig, i'm good to 120 yards.
Folks, understand that i love you all and want you to succeed well if archery is something you're interested in.
But, if i sent you down the recurve road first, you'd be in for a very challenging ride.
Most major bow manufacturers have entry level packages that are good starter bows, and basic setups for $300 or so.
The draw lengths are adjustable, as are the draw weights.
The packages are "ready to shoot" or "ready to hunt" type, some include arrows, some dont.
Get yourself one of the compound packages, take a few lessons to get your form settled in, and them go pound targets for a few months.
Archery is a blast, but it can be super frustrating when things dont go as intended.

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post #32 of 76 Old 04-26-2012, 09:17 AM
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You're kidding, right?
Thee biskit is good to 30 yards or so.
The issue being that the arrow spine can't fully do it's job due to being stuffed through an itty bitty hole, which negatively affects accuracy.
Ever take a look at a bunch of arrow rests?
Watch the improvements as you go up the price steps....theres a reason for that.
Top of the line arrow rests are in the 150+ range.
Cant drive a Cadillac for the price of a Yugo!
The biskit is popular due to being cheap, full containment, and fairly idiot proof.

As an aside, here's my bow lineup:
2006 diamond victory, AAE DOA, Trophy Ridge 7 pin, DCA Stabilizer
2012 Obsession SS, AAE Pro Drop, Spot Hott SDP 7 pin, DCA Carbon Stabilizer
1984 Oneida Screaming Eagle (wall hanger)
2007 PSE Reflex Expression, Shibuya sight, Bstinger stabs, AAE KSL Brass tab, AAE Gold Plunger, FreeFlyte Elite
2011 Samick Sage, AAE ST300 Hunter
I shoot Easton and HTA carbon arrows, AAE Max line of vanes (2.0 shields and Max Hunters), Easton micro S nocks, slick trick broadheads, and Carter releases.
My girl's bow is a PSE Bos Madness XS, Truglo sight, Pro Drop rest, Easton arrows, Trufire release.

I have tryed many different rest. The WB has been great for me but its on my hunting bow and i only shoot that to 50 yards. I like it because i dont have to worry about my arrows falling when in the tree.
Bow line up
Hoyt lazertec, hoyt magnatec, Old hoyt fast flight, I have 4 different bowfishing bows. And my recurve bow is the PSE coyote.

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post #33 of 76 Old 04-26-2012, 10:17 PM
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The primary issue with the biskit style rests is tha they impede the arrow's spine performance.
It buggers it up by draining stored energy, which detracts from not only accuracy, but also the kinetic energy at the point of impact, which is especially important when hunting.
I switched over to a DOA on my hunting bow. Within 2 weeks i shot a robinhood.
After watching high speed video of the effects a biskit has on the arrow, i will NEVER EVER let anyone i care about shoot a biskit.
Not to mention they trash vanes like it's cool.
If the best rest you can swing is a biskit, go with it.
Conversely, if accuracy means something in your repertoire of archery, a flipper style (AAE Stinger) is a good rest on the cheap, about $40 or so.
The next step up from that is the Lightning, a magnetic fall away. It's better than a stinger, offers arrow containment similar to a biskit, but tremendously more accurate, as the launcher falls as the arrow gets it's legs going, minimizing the impact of torquing the riser (which we all do) which improves accuracy.
The drawback is that tuning the Lightning is a little more challenging. It's easier than tuning a stinger, but not nearly as easy as a Pro Drop or a DOA.
The DOA and Pro Drop are the Cadillac and Corvette of target grade hunting rests.
Want to see some real accuracy?
Slap a Pro Drop on.
Paper tune to 20 yards with a bare shaft.
Yes, it's possible to get a bullet hole with a bare shaft at 20 yards.
But only if your bow is properly tuned, your arrows are properly spined, your FOC arrow weight is between 5 and 10%, and you have relatively good form.
It's the ultimate combination of shooting harmony, which is as good as it gets.
It's the difference between "minute of X ring" or "minute of zip code".
Assuredly, I respect you and your choices in what works best for you in your application.
I merely present my own knowledge and experiences, so that they might be of benefit to you, and the people you shoot with.
Fling arrows, my friends!
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post #34 of 76 Old 04-27-2012, 12:56 AM
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Took archery in high school for four years with a long bow. My grandfather has some old long bows that I've been dying to give a try but I don't believe they'd hold up anymore.
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post #35 of 76 Old 04-27-2012, 02:18 AM
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I'm saving up to get a recurve bow to start hunting :)
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post #36 of 76 Old 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM
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Awesome Sport! Me too, need a new recuve thats all. Do you have previous archery knowledge and been shooting before? If no i can give you some archery tips :)



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post #37 of 76 Old 04-27-2012, 12:39 PM
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I know quite a bit, my dad has taught me well :) But I wouldn't mind some extra tips :)
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post #38 of 76 Old 04-29-2012, 01:44 AM
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my buddy talked me into shootin his bow tonight. i didnt do half bad lol. i'll be gettin one now for sure. its a bowtech invasion, im definately sold on it. shoots smooth and incredibly fast
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post #39 of 76 Old 04-29-2012, 02:38 AM
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this is what the traditional long bow of Japan looks like., It is off center on purpose. Odd huh? They also do mounted archery.


here's the mounted archery
Watch Yabusame - Japanese Mounted Archery Video | Break.com
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post #40 of 76 Old 04-29-2012, 03:42 AM
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I do archery.(: I just recently was gifted my first bow by one of the instructors we had for our archery club (my senior year, figures lol) and I'm in the process of sighting it in and tweaking it. Dropped it from 60# to about 52#, shortened the drawlength a bit, and messed around with the sight. I'll probably be asking my guy for a pretty new sight for me, but that can wait for a bit; I'm just happy we can go out to the club and just shoot together.(:
I need to get an arm guard though (I thing guy said he'd be more than happy to give me his old one that he doesn't use..hopefully lol), my arm is all messed up from getting hit on my releases. I finally fixed it almost right before the state competition with the Genesis bows, and now it's happening with the compound and it hurts even worse. .-. ~60# drawback hurts a hell of a lot more than the 10-20# on the Genesis, lol.

I've never had the urge to shoot a longbow/recurve, it just doesn't appeal to me like the compounds do. I have wanted to do mounted archery forever..If it combines two of my favourite things in life, how can it not be amazing? I plan to do it at some point, and hopefully compete, though I know it's going to be extremely frustrating. >.>
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