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    06-23-2011, 11:33 AM
Green Broke
Clearly the vet doesn't need to come out for the poor goat you let get run over. But what about the old buck you state had a whole world of issues. Did he ever get any veterinary care? Or was he just left to suffer until he finally died?
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    06-23-2011, 11:40 AM
Green Broke
Wow, I have no control over that. I wasn't there. My parents have joint custody over me, and I'm only with my animals 50% of the time. We provide half the vet care on farm since we have most of the knowledge and supplies. I'm not saying we've vets. But we're not idiots. Maybe we do things differently than you, it doesn't make us horrible people. We don't put our animals in horrible situations, something just happens that you have no control over. We didn't know our new vet could check goats. At the time of my buck the only livestock vet was in Shenandoah. The mileage would cost more than twice the visit.
Maybe I'm 15, but I can say I'm more mature and rational than your typical sophomore. I don't tell my friends about my farm because it's "lame".. I just posted here to get it out of my head.
    06-23-2011, 11:45 AM
Green Broke
So basically no the buck didn't receive any vet care.

Weird growths, hematomas, looking sickly and he didn't get to see a vet because it would cost too much? Nice.

Maybe its time you stopped breeding so you can afford the care for the ones you already have.
    06-23-2011, 11:48 AM
Green Broke
Right. Things are changing. Thank you for your input.
    06-23-2011, 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by HowClever    

Maybe its time you stopped breeding so you can afford the care for the ones you already have.
That was my thought too!
    06-23-2011, 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by ilovemyPhillip    
Right. Things are changing. Thank you for your input.

You are going to receive input when you say the things that you do. You didn't like the goat that had its head crushed, so oh well, it's only livestock.
And you didn't provide vet care for the goat you 'loved'.
    06-23-2011, 01:12 PM
I look at it this way... If you are a kid and want animals but your parents are responsible for the bills and your parents are not willing to pay for appropriate vet care it is your job to be the mature one and decide that having more animals at this point in your life is not something you should do. Keeping animals and not providing vet care is not responsible. Screaming "I am just a kid" does not make it any more responsible if you as the kid are the one breeding more of them.
    06-23-2011, 01:31 PM
Green Broke
In addition, if it is too expensive to pay the mileage for your vet to drive out and care for an animal, then why on earth would you be going across country to buy additional, even more costly animals to care for? It's shameful.

And I promise you, (in the case of your old buck, for instance) no old farmers with livestock that I know would just let an animal suffer. If one was sick, or had health problems, they'd either call a vet or put it out of it's misery, not wait around for it to die.
    06-23-2011, 01:38 PM
Green Broke
Is this post for real?

Originally Posted by ilovemyPhillip    
I own a small Boer goat breeding operation in Woodford, Virginia.
Really... You are the owner until there is some responsibility involved and then it is your parents who are at fault.

Originally Posted by ilovemyPhillip    
He died of heart failure. He was looking sickly towards the end - huge hematomas (spelling?), he had these weird bumpy things on his testicles, his back was swayed, and he had bad legs. It was all a complete fluke. I guess he got all the bad recessive genes. :( His parents have great conformation; his sire is even ennobled!
All the bad recessive genes for what pray tell? Genetics isn't just a cover-all excuse when an animal dies due to health reasons.

Originally Posted by ilovemyPhillip    
I feel extremely guilty. I mean, she's livestock. Not a pet. I didn't even like her that much - but I didn't wish death upon her. The kids are fine, and my wether (gelding goat, lol), Jasper is in there, protecting them.

Originally Posted by ilovemyPhillip    
On the bright side, we're going all the way to Texas for new BLACK boers!
Excellent, you are getting more :roll:

Originally Posted by ilovemyPhillip    
Any opinions, thoughts, or comments?
I understand that the one goat being run over was an accident, a preventable one perhaps but these things happen. Why the comment about not even liking her? That was chillingly cold. Also, how do you know the last buck died of heart failure? If he got sick so suddenly and died I would want to know why before I brought more animals to the farm.

I also understand that they are livestock but it seems as if you thought the buck was more of a pet so which is it? Livestock or pet? Or do you treat each goat differently according to how much you like it?

Weirdest post I have seen in a while, not sure what you want to hear. I hope your mortality rate decreases.
    06-23-2011, 01:42 PM
Just wondering, did you ever buy that dog you just had to have?

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