2 1/2 months in - what do ya 'all think? - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Keeping and Caring for Horses > Horse Health > Hoof Care

2 1/2 months in - what do ya 'all think?

This is a discussion on 2 1/2 months in - what do ya 'all think? within the Hoof Care forums, part of the Horse Health category
  • Does vettec sole guard work on wet ground
  • Vettec videos

Like Tree3Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    03-30-2012, 11:48 PM
  #11
Yearling
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    03-30-2012, 11:56 PM
  #12
Yearling
The high foot is much more normal. See how close to the ground the coronet is on the low foot at the back of the foot compared to the other more normal foot? The whole thing needs to "stand up" a bit more like the opposite foot to make room for more frog matierial to build up instead of being pounded into the ground and running forward. This will get the bones back in line.

Farriers typically wedge feet like this with a shoe to regain immediate alignment, but the soleguard will help fill in the lacking back of the foot for a bare horse IME and can regain that alignment pretty well without a wedge or shoe. A very strong toe bevel will also be necessary to allow the toe to rotate forward as the alignment is regained and the back of the foot raised. Make sense? I have even a few times had to bevel into what appeared to be sole but was actually stretched wedgy toe from being pulled forward so long. I casted over these feet to be safe, but it probably want necessary.

Also, It is very important to get the bars trimmed back so they end near the middle of the frog before using the sole guard. You can get little do it yourself packs of soleguard. Its pretty easy to apply with a decently cooperative horse and a helper. Just watch the video and be SURE to dry the foot well with a hairdryer or a heat gun before applying or it wont stick.
     
    03-31-2012, 12:10 AM
  #13
Yearling
Grrrr I hate the edit limit...

I wanted to add...

If you compare the two heel shots, the high foot's bulb/coronet line looks level while the low foot is drooped down like a you. Flat tire.
     
    03-31-2012, 03:37 AM
  #14
Trained
Often forget the Vettec option, because over here it's not a popular choice due to prohibitive prices & (in my area at least), conditions mean thrush is a big issue. If it will work for your horse, I agree that it could be the better option, as it will provide 24/7 support for the heels rather than just when booted.

No, I don't think his fronts are good 'candidates' to go bare, for some time yet.
     
    03-31-2012, 01:46 PM
  #15
Yearling
I know what you mean about cost. I only charge my clients cost for putting it in so far as my market wont bear making it profitable for me to use. Im more interested in the rehab part than the money so it works out, but many farriers charge double cost which makes it ridiculous. Its about 30 bucks plus tips cost to do two feet for me with the big gun, but the results make is worth while on rehabs like this.

Also, did you know you can use the CS underneath the sole guard to inhibit thrush? Works well. We have been wet as crud here and I havent yet had issues with thrush thankfully using this stuff. I clean the frog and comissures really well and sometimes will applky thrushbuster and let it dry before using the heat gun to provide some thrush prevention. Seems to be working.
     
    03-31-2012, 04:25 PM
  #16
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity3205    

A very strong toe bevel will also be necessary to allow the toe to rotate forward as the alignment is regained and the back of the foot raised. Make sense?
Makes perfect sense.

Quote:
I have even a few times had to bevel into what appeared to be sole but was actually stretched wedgy toe from being pulled forward so long.
I have a feeling we could very well bevel that foot (the other foot too) a good inch back and think the "mushy stuff" the trimmer is rasping into is just stretched line. I'll let her make that call and be sure to put a good bevel on that toe.


Quote:
Also, It is very important to get the bars trimmed back so they end near the middle of the frog before using the sole guard. You can get little do it yourself packs of soleguard. Its pretty easy to apply with a decently cooperative horse and a helper. Just watch the video and be SURE to dry the foot well with a hairdryer or a heat gun before applying or it wont stick.
That soleguard stuff looks really cool. My horse a good boy about standing, so that should be relatively easy to apply. Now I just have to find some.

Loosie, I understand he doesn't look that great right now. It took 10 years and 7 farriers letting that heel slide forward over time to get him into this mess, so I'm not expecting to get out of it in under 3 months. His feet are starting to speed up their growing, so hopefully these modifications will put him in the fast track.

I'm finally starting to really grasp what needs to happen. Hoof trimming is kind of like algebra. Lots of fancy terms that make no sense until it all clicks.

Thanks again folks!
     
    04-05-2012, 07:46 PM
  #17
Trained
Well...we did the latest trim. We didn't get anywhere near the ideal angles I wanted but at are at the mercy of the white line. The sole had been pulled forward for so long, the white line is much further front than I would like to see. We backed the toes up as far as we could without going into the live stuff. I asked for a bigger bevel in the toe, but the trimmer was reluctant to do it and make him sore. Looks like all I can do is wait for the new hoof to grow in and keep knocking down the flare at the bottom.

I just got the soleguard today and they sent a "how to" dvd along with it. I've got him in hoof boots with pads until I can get that stuff on.

It looks like on the flat foot, its just a waiting game since the heels and toe are growing in at the same angle. They will hopefully both grow in at steeper angles.

On the club foot, would you guys bring that heel down? Right now it matches the angle of the new growth. If we do, it would make the heel angle more forward than the toe angle and possibly start the underrun cycle, so I'm reluctant to do it even thought I realize it is high. The sole has shed twice, and we lowered a little both times. This time it is not shedding, so I'm thinking leave the heel alone.

Thoughts?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg left-side-4-4-12-paint.JPG (22.0 KB, 47 views)
File Type: jpg right-side-4-4-12-paint.JPG (23.1 KB, 47 views)
     
    04-07-2012, 03:46 AM
  #18
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
The sole has shed twice, and we lowered a little both times. This time it is not shedding, so I'm thinking leave the heel alone.
My thoughts are your thoughts above are about right! IME the live sole is still a reasonable guide & if the heel does 'want' to come down more, it'll 'tell' you by shedding more/walls appearing overgrown in relation to the sole.
     
    04-07-2012, 04:15 PM
  #19
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by loosie    
My thoughts are your thoughts above are about right! IME the live sole is still a reasonable guide & if the heel does 'want' to come down more, it'll 'tell' you by shedding more/walls appearing overgrown in relation to the sole.
Thanks Loosie. I've had enough input and gathered enough information from so many different sources, my brain is about to explode. (the downside to being in your slow season at work and having time to surf the internet 7 hours straight each night). When in doubt, I'm going to, as they say, obey the sole.

Hopefully the next round of pics will show some more heel on that flat foot and the white line on that toe will have receeded a bit. I'm putting the sole guard on Monday to make sure he's comfy enough to walk around as much as possible.
     

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
20 Months csimkunas6 Horse Conformation Critique 13 12-07-2011 04:15 PM
Sam at 16 months! DutchFeather Draft Horses 3 11-29-2011 12:02 AM
its been 6 months !! gypsygirl Horse Pictures 10 12-18-2009 08:33 PM
7 months old horsecrazy15 Horse Training 15 02-01-2007 04:39 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0