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post #11 of 37 Old 08-15-2013, 05:01 PM Thread Starter
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Speedracer the only issue is laminitis now and abcesses the other issues are taken care of.
Don't think he needs putting down for abcesses. Vet is coming this evening to dig them out guess not much chioce here.

Like iv said vet been invovled from start he's made huge improvements this is just a small set back. He's gaining weight back he's eating good.
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What my vet had me do in addition to soaking was to have a layer of ichthamol over his hooves with a poultice over that, with diapers around the hoof and vet wrap to hold it all in place. I hope this makes sense. Rather than leaving on for a full 24 hours I redid every 12 hours. Within a few days my horse was sound again.
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You do understand that laminitis is life threatening, correct? If he has multiple abscesses in each foot and laminitis on top of that, this horse is completely and utterly miserable and very much in danger of losing his life.

I'm glad the vet is involved and you care enough to spend the money, but I can't help but wonder if there's been any rotation of his coffin bones. If so, he could well be on his way to sinking founder.

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You do understand that laminitis is life threatening, correct? If he has multiple abscesses in each foot and laminitis on top of that, this horse is completely and utterly miserable and very much in danger of losing his life.

I'm glad the vet is involved and you care enough to spend the money, but I can't help but wonder if there's been any rotation of his coffin bones. If so, he could well be on his way to sinking founder.
Yes iam well aware that laminitis can be life threating and he's going to be xrayed here as soon as current vet bill is payed off more. His hoofs had no heat till abcesses started he was doing much better till abcesses.

Believe me he's getting only the best care. He was tested for IR first test came back normal we re tested it came back IR. He's on low NSC diet and also supplement heiro wich has helped already. If for a second I thought he needed to be put down it would be done.
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I have never had one of my own abscess. But, as others have mentioned, ichthammol is a tried and true drawing agent. I keep it around "in case". It is extremely "sticky", so it has the added benefit of "stick power". I would at least ask the vet what he thought about applying it before and/or after it erupts.
PS. I hope he gets better and all works out for him.

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I'd be giving him silicea and poulticing him.
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I don't know anything about laminitis so I'm not sure if any of this is contraindicated, but my horse had a very stubborn abscess and what eventually worked for me was soaking 20 minutes a day with hot water and epsom salts in a soaking boot (so much better than a bucket!!) then using animalintex, vet wrap, and boot. If you are proficient at vet wrapping the whole thing can take less than a minute per hoof.

Is the abscess in the sole or coronet band?
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What my vet had me do in addition to soaking was to have a layer of ichthamol over his hooves with a poultice over that, with diapers around the hoof and vet wrap to hold it all in place. I hope this makes sense. Rather than leaving on for a full 24 hours I redid every 12 hours. Within a few days my horse was sound again.
This is exactly what my vet did too. Good outcome in no time.
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I'm sorry you're having to go through this, especially on top of the other issues.

My gelding burst 4 consecutive abscesses throughout the first winter I owned him, and honestly, the best way for him ended up being to have them dug out, but my vet didn't make a big enough hole so it closed up and restarted. My farrier come out and made a hole, then gave me a shoe nail and instructed me to keep the hole open with the nail (cleansing nail and just ensuring nothing was stuck in hole to close it, NOT jamming it into the hoof)

It is then a whole lot easier to keep the hoof clean and dry. Since you don't want a waterlogged hoof I would get the vet to dig out the abscesses and then you can use a poultice (even a dry poultice such as animalintex) put that over the dug out areas, hopefully the sole if possible, as then gravity will help a whole lot more with draining than having holes in the coronet band will.
So put the poultice over the dug out areas, then stick a baby nappy over the hoof, wrap with vet wrap, and if you need to waterproof then use duct tape over that. It's a little tricky at first, and you have to check it every day and re-wrap it, ensuring it's not too tight over the coronet band. (I ended up laying the nappy over a fence post and duct taping strips over what would be my base, and then doing the nappy up on the hoof and adding more duct tape as needed.)

I ended up doing away with the vetwrap, simply because each roll is rather expensive here and I was doing two hooves all winter, every day, so buying a big roll of duct tape ended up being more economical, and also electrical tape for temporary repairs was handy. My vet was really impressed at my setup, which was suggested by somebody on here a while ago.

You can also use a tyre inner tube over the hoof, folded up over the front and tied/taped at the top so it wont come off, but honestly I found the other method easier.

I know you would rather not have his hooves dug at, but in all honestly it's going to be the fastest and the most comfortable thing for him long term, since releasing the pressure gives almost instant relief, rather than waiting weeks for an abscess to burst by soaking.

Oh yeah, and if it's possible, if you wrap it as I suggested, then when you take it off to check it each day, it would be beneficial to have him stand on a clean dry concrete surface to ensure his hooves are getting air circulating around them for a little while, as I found that Mitch's coronet bands would get almost sweaty looking and softer than normal from the lack of airflow.
Oh yes, I forgot, movement is also good where you can. The more your horse is able to move around the better
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I had vet out all 9 abcesses are dug out been keeping both feet wrapped with a poultice to draw out all puss. He's doing a bit better now not nearly as painfull and heat is out of both hoofs.

He getting hoofs cleaned and re wrapped daily not easy to do he's not for picking up his feet but does. Thanks hollybubbles for for your info. He improving a little bit every day has a long ways to go but its getting there.
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