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post #41 of 66 Old 08-13-2013, 11:05 PM
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Oh, no! Hope it's nothing serious and that it heals up quickly.

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post #42 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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Good news is the pneumonia healed up fine.

Bad news is I had my farrier out yesterday for his trim. While the crack on the RF is almost completely closed up and grown out, the long bad one on the LF is still present, BUT you can tell its growing out. You can also see the new hoof growth growing out which I guess is a product of the proper nutrition and hoof supplement he's on. Not a lot of growth, but its there.

Last time farrier was out, we made the decision to just shod his fronts since his RR had that huge chunk missing from where he had blown as abscess. My farrier was not confident he could get shoes on the back. Whiskey did great and his back feet have shaped up beautifully.

So here is my conundrum, farrier told me yesterday he didnt feel confident about putting shoes on whiskey's fronts since they have remained crumbly and just overall blech. He said he was afraid it would do more harm then good, especially because he doesnt want the nail holes becoming infected with WLD. Apparently there was a lot of mud packed under the shoes when he took them off? So he rasped him down a bit and is coming back on Friday to see how he is doing. If he needs shoes, he said we will find a way to make it work. I think he is hoping he will be able to make the transition though.

He seems to be of the mindset that he will have healthy hooves (cracks grown out, majority new growth, etc) and be completely ready to go by December. Here's hoping. I will get some pics of his new feet for yall on Friday when the farrier is back out and he gets cleaned up. If anything I've described or said sounds weird please let me know! Yall are way more hoof savvy than I am so I would love to know of any potential problems I am overlooking. It gives me a chance to better educate myself and lets me know what issues to bring up with my farrier to help ensure Whiskey has the best recovery possible.
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post #43 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 05:09 PM
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Sounds like he's doing well so far. About the hoof growth, the quicker it grows the better for him and you. The supplement you put him on will not affect his current hoof quality which is why they are still crumbly. The supplement only affects the new growth coming in. Which means he needs to grow his hoof out completely for you to see the results of his supplement. The wait is torture, I know. I would wait and see if hey may be able to go barefoot for now? But in this situation, it's the lesser of two evils. Leave him bare and possibly cause him discomfort, or sore him and run the risk of infected nail ? It's definitely a lot to think about. Hopefully he continues to do just as well as he has been!
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post #44 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 05:26 PM
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I am surprised your vet would have passed him on your PPE with feet like that. Hoof boots?
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post #45 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 05:40 PM Thread Starter
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I am surprised your vet would have passed him on your PPE with feet like that. Hoof boots?
It was a decision I made churumbeque. His bloodlines are golden and I got him for a heck of a deal. It also is not AS bad as it looks. I got x rays of his feet during his PPE and talked to both my vet and my farrier as well as the farrier from the vet school here about what I was facing.

I fell in love with him, and couldnt leave him to stay with feet like that. Its a long road, but not an impossible one
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Sounds like he's doing well so far. About the hoof growth, the quicker it grows the better for him and you. The supplement you put him on will not affect his current hoof quality which is why they are still crumbly. The supplement only affects the new growth coming in. Which means he needs to grow his hoof out completely for you to see the results of his supplement. The wait is torture, I know. I would wait and see if hey may be able to go barefoot for now? But in this situation, it's the lesser of two evils. Leave him bare and possibly cause him discomfort, or sore him and run the risk of infected nail ? It's definitely a lot to think about. Hopefully he continues to do just as well as he has been!
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Thanks Kayella! I agree, the wait is definitely torture. He was pretty sore this AM when I checked on him but farrier just keeps asking me to give him until Thursday or Friday and see if he warms up to the no shoes. I can tell he really thinks the best thing for him right now is to go barefoot, but I know he wont push the issue if Whiskey stays too uncomfortable to be sound. He is keeping up with the herd and doesnt seem over stressed. Just walks like he can "feel" the ground if you know what I mean. When he hits a rock its a more obvious ouch limp but he isnt refusing to move or anything.

Its just so dang hard to watch them be uncomfortable
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post #47 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 06:47 PM
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Glad that he's feeling better!

Can I just say...I love your farrier! He sounds like he's truly only interested in what's best for your horse. Keep him around .

With as horrible as his feet have been for a long time, you can expect him to be a bit sore for a little while. I'd give him at least a couple weeks to see if they toughen up a bit more as they grow out.
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post #48 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 06:54 PM
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You can also see the new hoof growth growing out which I guess is a product of the proper nutrition and hoof supplement he's on. Not a lot of growth, but its there.
...And well balanced hoofcare, removing much of the strain those front walls with their long toes was under.

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So here is my conundrum, farrier told me yesterday he didnt feel confident about putting shoes on whiskey's fronts since they have remained crumbly and just overall blech. He said he was afraid it would do more harm then good,
Sounds like IMO he has a realistic view of what shoes do & don't do. I too would be reticent about putting shoes on the feet that you showed, at least until they have become healthy & strong.

If he's sore on his feet while at home & unworked, something serious may be going on that needs addressing & leaving him uncomfortable is not productive. Shoes offer little if any protection & no support to the underside of the foot, and peripherally loading hooves, particularly when already compromised can make matters worse. So hoof boots, pads & keeping him on yielding footing are some options for protection & support I'd consider.
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Glad that he's feeling better!

Can I just say...I love your farrier! He sounds like he's truly only interested in what's best for your horse. Keep him around .

With as horrible as his feet have been for a long time, you can expect him to be a bit sore for a little while. I'd give him at least a couple weeks to see if they toughen up a bit more as they grow out.
Smrobs, me too girl! I really loved the way he trimmed when I found him last summer when my old farrier wasn't working out. But what the sealed the deal for me on him was one day I paid him early because I didn't think I would be out there when he trimmed Drifter's feet. Well it turned out I was able to make it so I was there that day and Drifter was supposed to be getting shoes back on. He looked at Drifter's feet and then looked at me really seriously (i had been having major issues with Drift) and said "I cannot feel okay about putting shoes on this horse. He has to go barefoot for a while. There is nothing to put shoes on to, and his hooves need to strengthen up". He then walked to his truck and wrote me a check for the difference between shoes and just a trim right then and there! I was totally floored

He also came out once a week to check on him, no charge to me! I had to force him to take gas money. He is seriously very awesome and was a blessing to find! I trust him completely and he will always talk me through what he's doing and why if he changes something up.

Loosie- actually talked to him on the phone today and he said to move him into a paddock with a little easier footing. He mentioned that pads were an option if he is really sore still when he comes out on Thursday. He was moving much better tonight though in the paddock so I think he just needs some time to transition to being barefoot on rocks. Already could see a big difference in him tonight so that's a positive.

Poor little dude. I am so ready to be over this hurdle!
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post #50 of 66 Old 09-03-2013, 11:28 PM
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my mare is barefoot. The last two years has gotten a chipped area on her right front foot kinda like an abscess, that is the main foot that is off balance. Now that I have a person who is schooled in barefoot trimming and balancing her feet out from the last normal farrier trim the area is improving and not as bad this time and her over all hoof health is better than its ever been. I guess what im saying is my farrier might say the cracking is because the feet are off balance and dry. Esp since there is no pain shown. But that's just a guess and I know not everyone does or agrees with the barefoot thing.

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