I SOOO disagree with you Fluffy. *Generally of course - there are many exceptions. I thought once, as you do, that it was important to trim for 'concavity', when I started learning all this about 15 or so years ago. But I soon found otherwise & the more I learned & experienced over the years, the more incorrect the idea of thinning sole & forcing concavity seems to me. This theory just doesn't generally work well in the real world, IME. Horses may or may not need a certain amount of 'concavity', depending on a few factors & may or may not have healthy, well functioning feet regardless
of concavity. But what they all need is depth of sole.
Originally Posted by princessfluffybritches If I expose live sole without trimming into it, the sole already has the shape of concavity.
Yes. That's not to say it's a good reason to do it though. Esp if you do it routinely, esp if you do it on an already very likely thin soled hoof like you've shown. I think paring down to the live sole plane can absolutely be helpful to see the 'real' foot clearly, sometimes necessary in further trims too. Often IMO lumps & bumps should be reduced. Depending on the environment etc, sometimes I will attend to a horse who routinely has way too much build up of sole & does indeed need a lot removed(cushings horses, donkeys & minis often in that boat), but they are the exceptions to the 'rule'.
A build up of sole and compression of it is not what "wild " horses do. They exfoliate on a daily basis-
But they DO absolutely also have a thick, well calloused sole, if the environment is conducive. If wild horses live in an abrasive environment & travel many miles daily, they will likely have no **excessive** build up of sole, but that's not the same as the live sole. If a domestic horse was in the same environment/lifestyle, you can expect similar.
That is also far from the way of life & being for so many horses, esp domestics, and there are generally REASONS for dead sole becoming thick. Paring away a fair bit of sole monthly or 6 weekly is also very different in effect to minute amounts being worn away every step.
IMO we should not be leaving sole to be compressed into concavity. The live sole never gets a chance to harden up like it should
Live sole should NOT
be dried out & dead at all, IMO. If you pare off the callouses on your own soles, you'll get to soft, moist live skin too, which will of course dry out quickly. That is FAR from a reason to keep paring it regularly to keep drying it out. There is a reason it keeps growing.
IMO & E, the callouses should absolutely be allowed to develop & the sole allowed to become thick. In most cases I see, including, it appears, your own horse Fluff, the soles are already too thin WITHOUT exfoliating. The horse cannot ever develop thick, healthy soles if you keep removing the material!
Loosie, nothing to disagree about. I don't think I was clear enough.
The lady with the Clyde. Big wide flat feet. She's not my customer, she was just looking for information, and I said I'd ask around. I can't give her advice on this. I was wondering about how much someone would exfoliate on a big flat hoof like this.
Then I was thinking about what I experienced with mine, and posted my "theory" because I couldn't think of any other reason why my horse had flat soles due to dead sole buildup, winced and stumbled on pebbles and uneven ground. I exfoliated to live sole, which left the hoof concave, and a rock hard surface formed over it within 2 days. She no longer stumbles over the rocky driveway or uneven ground. She strided down the driveway every day and not once winced or stumbled.
I would like to hear another reason for this happening. I, too, have always left sole for protection. But I wonder if there's a way that it's worked against her. This is not the first time I've noticed this.
That picture is deceiving. She does not have thin soles. Really.
I guess what I'm getting at is the hoof quickly grows what the hoof needs. If you have layers of dead sole on top of the layer that should be converting from live sole to dead sole, are you slowing the process that a healthy hoof needs? Does leaving layers of dead sole actually slow the process of live sole converting to dead sole? Can layers of dead sole actually create thin soles because they prevent the stimulation that live sole needs to put out more sole faster?