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    12-02-2012, 06:48 PM
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Foal
Barefoot hoof critique?

I have been getting a barefoot farrier to trim my horses hooves....Can someone give a critique? I want to start trimming them myself, but am unsure about his heels. How should they be brought back more?
Any advice is welcome!
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    12-02-2012, 10:11 PM
  #2
Yearling
Hmmm. I can't tell enough from those pics. The way the picture is taken it looks like the heels arelong. It would tell more if you took a picture from the back of the foot , get the trimmed surface to photograph like looking across the rim of a glass. Then one standing from the side with camera on the ground and parallel to the hoof. If you take a picture of the sole, try to get the camera parallel to the sole, for example, your pics look like they're taking a pic of the sole tipped and getting more of the backof the hoof.

If you trim, pay attention to the angle of the pastern/hoof because sometimes when one wants to bring the heels back too far in one trim, you end up with a too-low angle.

I would treat the parts of the hoof wall that looks like it's being eaten away, it may be some whiteline.

How long ago were those feet trimmed?
     
    12-02-2012, 10:38 PM
  #3
Trained
Yeah, as PFB says, better pics would help - see the link in my signature for tips. Heels look like they'll come back a fair bit when they're trimmed & if toes are kept back adequately & heels not allowed to overgrow like that, probably won't take too long to get them in better shape, assuming environment, etc is in his favour. Flared heel quarters could do with a bit of a bevel & probably shorten IMO & rears look perhaps a bit imbalanced - longer on the right side of both pics?
     
    12-03-2012, 01:10 AM
  #4
Yearling
Yep all we can really tell here is you have flared quarters and under run heels (both are related to each other) and the horse could use some frog (and likely whe whole back of the foot) development.

Need a good set of pictures. Don't overwhelm yourself, just do one set of feet at a time.
     
    12-03-2012, 01:19 AM
  #5
QOS
Green Broke
I agree with the others. The heels are underrun. The hooves don't look horrible at all though. Start slow. Check out youtube videos for help. Get good quality equipment - a Bellotta rasp is what I have, circular knives are fantastic. Way better than the single sided knifes and top notch nippers. I have some that were made in Vinton, LA by DS Farrier Supply. So much easier to use than the ones my barn manager got from the feed store...LOL we all share equipment and help each other so that helps too!
     
    12-03-2012, 07:39 PM
  #6
Foal
I have a Hellers rasp- red tang pyramid shaped?
They were trimmed a few days before I took the photo... Should I try and trim them myself now? I can see now that the back hooves do look imbalanced :/ not happy.
So, how do I get rid of the flared quarters? Just rasp them a little shorter? And in turn the heels should become less under run?
I will try and get some better pics today.
And perhaps have a go myself...
Thanks for all the feedback so far!
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    12-03-2012, 09:31 PM
  #7
Foal
I think you need a new farrier...
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    12-03-2012, 11:05 PM
  #8
Trained
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Should I try and trim them myself now?
How much understanding do you have of the principles of hoof balance, etc? What sort of ground does the horse live & work on? What choices of other trimmers do you have in your area? Could it be that the feet were more out of balance or such & the trimmer has improved the situation greatly, but being the first go &/or horse has had long term imbalance, this is the best you'd hope for at this point? - IOW, regardless of it looking like an imperfect eg, with only these few pics to go on & not knowing what the trimmer started with, I wouldn't just jump to blaming them, without more info at least.

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So, how do I get rid of the flared quarters?
I'd *likely* keep them at sole level from the ground surface & bevel the flared areas on a 45 degree angle or such, to where the footprint 'should' be. BUT it depends & the heels are part of the problem, which depending on specifics, may also be best not lowered much further *for now at least*. But as we've said, don't have enough info to advise specifics. There are always ifs, buts & maybes too, so learning about hoof function & such will help you understand better how, why, why not... More pics with different angles could help us suggest a few more specifics though.
     
    12-04-2012, 06:17 AM
  #9
Foal
I have been getting him trimmed by the same person for a number of months now at 4 week intervals. Ever since I got him a year ago his heels have been under run and haven't improved. The horse lives in a grassy paddock but works in a sand and a dirt arena and goes on trails ( rocky ground included ) and has never pulled up lame.
I have a fair bit of understanding on how to trim correctly and balanced, and will only do so with an experienced persons guidance too.
I trimmed them today, and my second opinion said they looked pretty good :)
When I get near a computer, I'll upload the photos I took to show.
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    12-04-2012, 11:17 AM
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Yearling
Goosey, that's great. I would continue to do little by little because you can't put it back on!
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