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post #21 of 25 Old 05-18-2013, 08:45 PM
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Well if youv been in my shoes you'd sure understand the attitude about farriers.

All the ones iv used couldn't do a good barefoot trim. Yeah all went to school for it to must of been. the school of under run heels.

Yep all of them certified too that's why iv got the mess I have. Sorry after 6 farriers and a lame horse iam not impressed with their schooling.

Just because they went to school for it doesn't mean their good.
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post #22 of 25 Old 05-18-2013, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag View Post
I don't get the attitude that farrier's can't do a good barefoot trim. The farrier has gone to school and understands the whole leg and it's dynamics as well as any veterinarian. Many of the barefoot trimmers have taken very short courses and hang out a shingle.
Saddle, I can extremely well understand that attitude, as no, IME, so many farriers DO NOT have a very good understanding of hoof function, let alone the whole leg & horse, even the ones that have 'gone to school' to learn - I suspect they learn vastly more about blacksmithing & applying shoes than anything else (& in my country as in yours, it's an unregulated industry) so while I agree that there are many little educated/skilled trimmers out there, there are just as many bad farriers. A *good* farrier will do just as good a job as a *good* trimmer, but that's the catch - finding someone, whatever their lable - that truly knows what they're on about! At present, farrier qualifications mean diddly squat IMO & at least a couple of the *good* farriers I know have not been to 'school'. Trimmer 'qualifications' also frequently mean very little(although this seems to be changing & there are a few excellent, comprehensive courses around the world now) and I wouldn't employ anyone without some case studies to look at first at least.

I know it will take a while for his feet to grow out and have a proper trim, but how long do you suspect it will take? Once I find a farrier (and I will be keeping an EXTREMELY close eye on his feet from here on out), how will I go about getting the foot corrected? How long (approximately) will it take for his feet to be fixed? Should he be getting any exercise right now with his feet being in such bad condition?
OP, how long will it take me to lose enough weight & get myself really fit? That's the sort of question you're asking above I'm afraid. There are just too many factors to possibly give you a reasonable answer. If his feet are largely healthy & sound underneath that mess, they will be quicker to recover than if there are underlying/chronic problems. If you find a good trimmer & get the horse well & frequently trimmed, this will be quicker than if you find a dud, one that does only an average job &/or you don't have them done frequently enough to keep them in good shape. If your horse has a metabolic/dietary/systemic problem that's affecting his hooves, you will need to treat/correct that, if you're able, or there may be little improvement regardless of the rest. If your horse's environment/lifestyle is unhealthy for him & his hooves, it will take longer/forever to substantially change his hoof health.

So... I'd forget about the question of 'how long' & concentrate on what you can do to improve the situation. No 1 is good regular trimming. No. 2 is attention to diet & overall health. No. 3 is padding/protecting the hooves if/as needed to allow *comfortable* exercise...
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post #23 of 25 Old 05-19-2013, 11:33 AM
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Herws the thing about many farriers, they are STILL being taught out of date trimming methods and ways to balance the hoof to the leg. We now know through loads of research that that way isnt correct and CAUSES problems. When the old schools update their way of teaching and the majority of the farriers in the field actually understand the hows and whys of what constitutes a good trim and how to balance the foot to the bone using natural markers almost every horse has more often than not, THEN people will change the way they feel overall after a time of seeing the evidence as a whole. Reputations dont just come about overnight. They are earned by the industry as a whole even if some are good in the majority of poorly skilled ones. i know some wonderful farriers (online. Sadly we have few to none in my area) but I know many more who just got out of school are are horribly taught. They can forge, but that couldnt trim their way out of a paper box.

The thing about barefoot is: its alot more forgiving than a poor shoe job many times. The horse can balance his own feet and wear or break off the bad parts. Thats not to say there are not terrible barefoot trimmers out there who do harm because there certainly are.
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post #24 of 25 Old 05-19-2013, 11:50 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to offended my farrier is the one who trims, and I agree that some horses need shoes, not every horse is a shoeless candidate.
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post #25 of 25 Old 05-19-2013, 11:56 AM
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Oh and BTW, GOOD trimmers have more things they can use besides a trim including boots, casting and so forth. Metal shoes arent the end all be all of hoof protection.

No, its not as easy as just slapping on shoes and forgetting about them for 6 weeks but they heal alot faster when they have distortion issues and thrush issues and the owner is forced to pay attention to the feet. Thats not to say they CANT in shoes - but IME the guys and gals who can do those types of good shoe jobs are few and far between.

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