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post #11 of 18 Old 10-14-2008, 04:03 PM
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when you do the ACV mix...do you need to refresh it for each hoof? By the time I get to the 4th hoof it is kinda of dirty water.
I keep mine in a spray bottle. The only time I soak anyone is if they have pretty serious issues in frog areas

Also want to concur with all the heat/dry/chipping comments. Same here. I am in southern Middle Tennessee and we are really short on rainfall.

Two of my four horses have minor toe cracks. One is club-footed and I'm sure that adds to the issues because I have a tough time keeping him balanced

I keep my four filed down every two weeks. I now have some arthritis in both hands and I can't pull the knippers when the hooves are "summer hard".

I also have a horse that is metabolic and has laminitic issues, so I keep a really close eye on his hooves. He keeps his heels worn down very nicely, but he has always grown enough toe in a month to support another horse.

We are still in the low 80's. Once the temps start cooling down and there's a little more moisture in the ground, the toe crack issues will disappear if I am doing what I'm supposed to be doing
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post #12 of 18 Old 10-14-2008, 07:21 PM
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Hi,

I'm a hoofcare practitioner. Firstly I will say, his feet don't look particularly bad, *from the little that can be seen from these pix*. If you want an evaluation of his feet & your trim job, you'll need to send more & different angles - read the sticky post on sending pix.

Those toe cracks look minor, but especially as he also has the seedy toe/WLD you speak of, they are likely a symptom of being too long & causing separation. Ensure you keep the hooves trimmed to only a tad longer than the sole plane and keep them very well rolled. If you have been doing a mustang roll, it needs to be a lot more aggressive than that.

The quarter 'crack' does not appear to be. It looks more like a chunk of excess hoof that's broken away. The distortion in the coronet band and the flare at the heel are other indicators to show that this area is too long. It continues to grow to ground level & then break away again because it doesn't want to be that long. Are you familiar with 'scooping' the quarters? That's what this horse appears to need. Following the live sole plane will tell you how much. They generally need this more on the backs than the fronts, which is why you're seeing the problem there. It's also possible his heel(s) are a little long & underslung, but not sure, from that one pic.
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post #13 of 18 Old 10-17-2008, 10:38 PM
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The toes look a tad "square" to me. Not the wall, as in the bevel, but in the overall shape of the footprint. Make sure you don't leave any kind of "corner" at the toes. If you over shorten the very front of the toe, and in effect make a square toe, it tends to split right up the front, espeially if they have ANY weakness going on there, *ahem....previous founder, or damaged tip of the coffin bone from horrible shoeing* anyways, the hoof at ground level should match the shape at the hairline...round.Another little tid-bit--sometimes a horse will have an eroded or incomplete coffin bone at the tip. If the tip isn't there, there's a "blip" (I am totally making up that term, btw) in the lamina, so there's less "velcro" and it looks like a constant streteched white line or even appears as WLD ,and it is a weak spot that opens the door for fungus, but may not be infected, yet still have the spot. It is the same in shod horses, you just don't see it on them.

How do you know if your horse has this "blip"? Pick up the hoof, check out the toe where that crack is. If there is a groove/notch/triangle at the tip of the toe, where wall meets sole, that's just that littls spot, and the toe tends to crack up to the hairline if you don't keep up on the trims, and the foot is prone to being squared off with wear, that could be what you are seeing. Soooo....just round off the corners, keep up on the trims and a preventative soak in ACV once every couple of weeks should do it. Apply a sealer during the wet season or when it's fluctuating from wet to dry, and that sould help a lot.

The quarter crack, is just breaking off to where it wants to be trimmed. Not pretty, and has the potential to crack, but use it as a guide next time you trim! Just smooth off the wall, scallop it to being a tad shorter than the rest of the wall.

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post #14 of 18 Old 10-18-2008, 12:18 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks everybody! We should be trimming this weekend...wil update with the trimmed pictures.
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post #15 of 18 Old 10-18-2008, 08:54 PM
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That is honestly my worst nightmare because as the saying goes, with no hoof, there is no horse. I would try hoof supplements. Back in Europe we also went thru some pretty radical weather changes but most horses didn't have any issues. You take a look at your horse's diet. Make sure that he/she isn't missing anything important and to compliment it if there is. Unless the horse is simply prone to bad feet (as per certain breeds) there is no reason for your poor guy/girl to be going thru a rough time.
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post #16 of 18 Old 10-18-2008, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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That is honestly my worst nightmare because as the saying goes, with no hoof, there is no horse. I would try hoof supplements. Back in Europe we also went thru some pretty radical weather changes but most horses didn't have any issues. You take a look at your horse's diet. Make sure that he/she isn't missing anything important and to compliment it if there is. Unless the horse is simply prone to bad feet (as per certain breeds) there is no reason for your poor guy/girl to be going thru a rough time.
goodness its just a couple of cracks! Pretty commom problems...
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post #17 of 18 Old 11-13-2008, 03:27 PM
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Our horses rest in very dry areas, barefooreted, thanx.
Similar cracks.
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post #18 of 18 Old 11-13-2008, 07:51 PM
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If you have some white line, you might try something called Fungus Free.
It's on the internet, and it works great for thrush, white line, and itchy things.
It's oil based and you only need a little once or twice a day.
I agree on the mustang roll and water. This www.FiveStarFungusFree.com product will displace the water and kill any fungus in the white line area.
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