My responses to your post are in bold. My regular comments are at the end of my response....
[Originally Posted by Lockwood
It seems that there are about as many different ways to trim a bare hoof as there are riding styles now a days.
I have used accredited Barefoot trimmers on previous horses in other parts of the US and there is a difference in how they trim as opposed to more traditional methods.]
"OK, so what you're saying is that your current farrier does a trim that's perhaps inappropriate for the conditions." No, what I am saying is that this particular farrier is old school and doesn‘t seem to take the conditions in to consideration when trimming. Nor does he even want to see how a new horse moves, know what the intended use is, or anything else about a horse, including history. That is not customary in my previous horse experiences with many other types of farriers.
"That in your experience, most farriers in your area do this?" Yes, it is actually very common in this area for farriers to work this way. It is also common for horses to have soreness issues after trims according to most of the horse people here that I have talked to, which is quite a few. So much so that people think it is just the norm, and they take it upon themselves to go to TSC and purchase nippers and rasps and just do them themselves. Their reasoning is that they can certainly do the same thing to their own horses and save some money. (Yes, they really think and say that.) Many of the labeled farriers/trimmers here (my immediate area) are not formally trained. They are just good ol’ boys with the reputation of being cheap and not ruining too terribly many horses. This is not horse country, and it is far different from my previous experiences in other parts of the country. If it helps you to know, there is heavy influence of Amish and Mennonite in animal care and standards around here. Not saying that is wrong or bad, just different as in old fashioned. Progressive or current are not really even on the radar here.
"I don't at all think it's a given that all farriers do this though." Neither do I, nor did I intend to imply they do, which is why I tried to use words like different, or method/style as opposed to better or worse.
"There are good & bad trimmers under either 'banner' IME, which is why I asked for specifics on what you think your
farrier is doing 'wrong'." I wasn’t trying to say my farrier was wrong and is why I tried to initially leave him out of the conversation. (More about him below) I think he is using the knowledge that he has and I’m sure what he does is just fine for most horses.
"There are a few different theories & models different trimmers work to(& some 'barefooters' work to a 'recipe' type approach) but I think the main reason there are many different specifics is because every horse & situation is an individual & while there are principles to follow, the specifics are IME never quite the same from horse to horse". I completely agree and I only mentioned my experience with an accredited barefooter to make the point that my opinions do not come from random info I pulled off the internet. I’m had many conversations and lots of experience with all different kinds of trimmers and farriers. Traditional, Natural, Barefoot, many who fall in between, and those who cannot be labeled in any way. I agree that each horse has different needs or specifics and I think a good farrier should be able to read the horse and know what the horse needs, regardless of the tag applied to how they trim, shoe, or work. I don’t subscribe to there only being one method that is the “right” method. I am not against metal shoes either. And again, I’m not trying to bash farriers because I generally respect them very much. Most of my experiences are good and I can’t blame all my horses issues on him. Some horses make the transition very smoothly, some don’t. My thread was really intended to gather some boot information, not discuss trimmers or trimming methods.
Loosie, the links below go a little more in depth on the transition/transitional stages you asked about.]
"I'm well aware of changes & problems that can occur, whether they're labled or excused as 'transitional' or otherwise. I was asking specifically what your
horse is suffering. " My boys particular issues are sloughing frogs, bruises, tenderness, and fast growing walls. All of which he can’t answer my questions on… particularly on how often he needs trimmed. So I am left to figure out most of what my horse needs on my own.
Now, in defense of my farrier… he is wonderful with my rescue donkeys!
I found an older donkey and a BLM burro who were neglected and standing knee deep in cow manure and muck, which is a whole other story.
The burro had slipper foot and hadn’t been trimmed properly for years. The female donkey had foundered and her feet curled perpendicular to her body like wings and you could see the “bottom” by just standing next to her and looking down. She was hobbling around on the outside of the hoof walls and her fetlocks are deformed.
The trimmer the old owner used let them get way out of hand and the curve, or "U" rather, was severe enough to hold golf balls.
When the previous owners actually did get them trimmed, the animals were either hoisted up with belly bands or they were drugged. The burro is extremely sensitive to any metal clanging noises that even remotely resemble hoist chains. Even just a halter buckle noise terrifies him.
My farrier is incredibly patient with them, has a good reputation for doing donkeys and mules, and is getting the female to where she is much better and more comfortable. The burro’s feet are almost normal now, but we still have quite a ways to go with the jenny.