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    01-02-2013, 01:06 PM
  #1
Foal
Boots or Shoes with Studs Or Barefoot on Slippery Surface

I noticed people do have different opinions on these.

On clay, mud or grass what would be good?

My horses have done well barefoot on all kinds of surfaces but have slipped twice in life time (2 different horses). Once on wet grass other on clay. I tend not to turn fast when riding on surfaces that are slippery but have done it.

People say that shoes will stop you from slipping on wet grass/clay or mud etc. I then read that is not so and I have seen many horses slip and they wore shoes just as horses without shoes have. I don't feel/see much of a difference either as I have ridden shod horses. There are shoes that have studs and that seems to do a better job, but could boots achieve this as well or would they fall off.

Say you are doing cross country or barrel racing on wet grass or clay (although highly unlikely...or have you guys ever tried that?). Would you feel safer if your horse had studs or boots or would it not make a difference and would even go barefoot.

My horses are barefoot and I would like to stay that way as I have never run into problems but am curious about riding on slippery surfaces. If I were to put shoes on. My horse hooves would have to adjust all over again and it would take a while to get back to the way they are now if I were to go back to barefoot. I thought about boots but wondered if they would work against me and my horse or not as I have never tried them either. Also depends on the horse as some are really skilled at moving on slippery surfaces.

What do you think and what are your experiences?
     
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    01-02-2013, 02:31 PM
  #2
Banned
If its a fast sport I'd get studs. My own opinion, though.
     
    01-02-2013, 09:11 PM
  #3
Trained
I event at the lowest levels. Most of our stadium rounds are on grass and obviously XC is too. Last year the grass course had standing water everywhere. Almost every horse had refusals even over tiny 2'3" fences and most of the horses were cantering very cautiously. My then barefoot guy tore around that course like he owned it. Not remotely a slip. I'm actually bummed that he couldn't completely adjust to barefoot. He is shod in front now. If I had a choice, I would choose barefoot for traction on grass. I can't speak for clay.
     
    01-03-2013, 08:08 AM
  #4
Foal
Yes cross country is grass but I think they cancel it if weather is bad or wet? Or do they go on rain or shine? I have had to do barrel racing on a horse and it started pouring when it was my turn. Of course. My luck but didn't bother us.

If I were to use studs, my problem is the transition from barefoot to shod back to barefoot. But I don't join high levels or even that many contests so I have had no real need to but wondered for those who do join contests what do they do and would be a good thing to know if ever I did. Nice to know your horse performed well barefoot. May I ask what was wrong with his front hooves?
     
    01-03-2013, 08:26 AM
  #5
Foal
An old jumper trainer once told my daughter, think forward - ride forward. Problems occur when you try and slow your horse in the middle of a dicey situation. Just an opinion but it worked and we've used it for years. Don't interfere aand let the horse do his job. Regardless, wear a protective vest and a helmet. Safe riding!
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    01-03-2013, 12:26 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Part of it definitely depends on the rules of the sport- I'm not sure about eventing, but I know dressage doesn't permit boots, so you'd have to choose barefoot or shoes (with studs as needed).
     
    01-03-2013, 01:24 PM
  #7
Foal
Do some deem shoes as a must or you always have a choice? If your horse wears studs on a flat hard smooth surfaces won't they slip easy too? What kind/types of studs are there?
     
    01-03-2013, 07:26 PM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by Cintillate    
Yes cross country is grass but I think they cancel it if weather is bad or wet? Or do they go on rain or shine? I have had to do barrel racing on a horse and it started pouring when it was my turn. Of course. My luck but didn't bother us.

If I were to use studs, my problem is the transition from barefoot to shod back to barefoot. But I don't join high levels or even that many contests so I have had no real need to but wondered for those who do join contests what do they do and would be a good thing to know if ever I did. Nice to know your horse performed well barefoot. May I ask what was wrong with his front hooves?
Eventing runs rain, pour or shine. I asked a ton of questions of other riders of barefoot horses before attempting to jump that way. Most say, unless you're jumping over 3', you're fine barefoot.

My horse just never developed enough sole thickness in his fronts to make him comfortable enough for my taste. Grass he was fine no matter what, but whenever the terrain switched to dirt, he was very obviously uncomfortable. I made the executive decision to put shoes back on his fronts. We're going to revisit the hinds once the season starts again, but I'm hoping those can stay bare.

Traction wise, it really was night and day between barefoot and plain non-studded shoes.
     
    01-04-2013, 02:10 AM
  #9
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Cintillate    
Do some deem shoes as a must or you always have a choice? If your horse wears studs on a flat hard smooth surfaces won't they slip easy too? What kind/types of studs are there?
I've never heard of any requiring shoes.

For studs, you would put them in when needed (slippery grass, mud, etc) and take them out the rest of the time. It seems like they can be a bit of a hassle but definitely better than your horse sliding around and getting injured if that's the alternative.
     
    01-04-2013, 08:54 PM
  #10
Yearling
I think shoes with studs are the way to go for fast events if the horse can't do it bare for whatever reason. Bare is the best natural traction as the horse can really feel the ground, but even it has its limits once you reach a certain level. Wet clay is going to be slippery no matter what way you look at it.


Soooo It depends. Bare until proven otherwise ;) Boots if they fit tight and close are also ok up to a certain point.
     

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