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    07-31-2013, 02:22 AM
It's actually 9 degrees. I wrote that '5' is considered the normal angle according to the vet, and we are at -2 and +7!

Today I massaged both shoulders for the compensation patterns and found each one had fibrous tissue at the triceps, biceps and part of the delt muscle. As well, I found a particularly responsive spot way up at the rhomboids near the top of the shoulder/wither....that elicited very happy head nodding in ectasy.

The vet said the spaces between the bones looked good, the only thing was a small amount of vascularization (new blood vessels forming) at the medial sesamoid bone - but that blocked out ok anyway.

The vet suggested I go higher for another block (referred me to another vet out of town) along with ultrasound image. We've already gone as high as the knee, so I am taking Trinity's advice and letting things cool down and let the shoeing shifts
Re-establish balance. Thanks for all your suggestions!
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    08-01-2013, 11:23 AM
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Was the rotation of the coffin bones measured from the dorsal wall or the ground surface? That's important. If was from the dorsal wall, 7.5 is a LOT.

I also don't understand a minus on one and a plus on the other? I see you are in the UK, so maybe your measuring methods are different from our U.S. Vets???

Originally Posted by Trinity3205    
I always recomeend when there is hard to pinpoint lameness present and there are confirmed big hoof isssues to not spend too much time or money tryibg to track down causes or treat it till the feet are fixed. Its often a waste of time because fixing the feet fixes the problem. Imbalance and bad angles are a huge cause of body sorenesss, lameness that can't be pinpointed etc. It csn throw the body extremely out of whack from compensation. If you want to do something, chiro massage and acupuncture with some stretching might be prudent while the horse heals and gets back even.
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^^^^All that. ESPECIALLY the part about the horse learning to compensate for hoof soreness and ultimately throwing its body out of whack.

I have a horse who initially had a fractured sacrum. Then he foundered from his insulin issues. Then the rehab farrier cut his heels too short in one strike and literally tore his ligaments

He's alive and walking sound today but that was in contention a year ago. He has seen an equine chiropractor no less than six times in 12 months to help keep his body in alignment while he heals.

Always a few days AFTER he's been trimmed so the adjustment matches freshly balanced hooves.
    08-01-2013, 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
I also don't understand a minus on one and a plus on the other? I see you are in the UK, so maybe your measuring methods are different from our U.S. Vets???

It's gotta me a hi/low situation, no? The 7.5 must just be a decent grade club foot?
    08-02-2013, 09:55 AM
Yeah I'd be more concerned about the -2 than th 7 deg, and would want to be working with a body worker, not just trying to change his feet. Wedge padding under the frog(not heel walls) of the low heel would one measure I would consider.
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    08-02-2013, 12:53 PM
Is there a reason that the horse has this? Founder? Club? Pictures would help and reason would help as well
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