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        04-25-2013, 09:42 PM
      #51
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        05-08-2013, 08:28 PM
      #52
    Weanling
    So my dad came up this weekend and helped me pull Comic's shoes and trim his feet. He's not a professional by any means but he's been barefoot trimming his own horses for about 7 years now. I can't believe the difference! We used a hoof gauge to help us and his front feet are at about a 52 degree angle and his backs at about 55. We really tried to gather up his feet without taking too much off and causing him problems. We'll continue to keep up on them as they grow so we can get them in good shape.

    BUT... I think he has fungus in his white line in all 4 feet. He's never had this before and I didn't notice it when I cleaned his feet through the winter. So why now in all 4 feet? It's really noticeable so it's not like I just missed it before. I knew as soon as we pulled those shoes that there was a huge problem. Pics Below.

    Foot with the crack after pulling the shoe and trimming. Still need to clean out the crack.


    Before (RF) After (LF)


    How the white line looks on all 4 feet. This is the general shape all 4 feet are in after we pulled then trimmed them.


    After we put a "mustang roll" on the toe. You can see how dark and yucky the white line is


    So folks, what now?
         
        05-09-2013, 06:19 AM
      #53
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    Need different angle pix to say much - see link in signature below if you're not sure what's needed. That's a very strong bevel, but considering the hoof in question, possibly necessary to be that strong, especially around the quarters, which if it matched the flaring of the un 'rolled' right one, I think has been addressed well.

    From what can be seen & read, I'm guessing the one that has been rasped into the sole at the toe, is to try to make it more upright to match angles of the other? If my supposition is right, this is a mistake. It can be handy to measure angles, to gauge what changes come about over time, but not a good move to cut the hoof to preconceived measurements or (generally) to make hooves that don't match the same. It is also not a good move to invade the live sole plane, especially at the toe, especially on an already(apparently) thin/flat soled hoof.
         
        05-09-2013, 09:33 AM
      #54
    Weanling
    Okay so you would have left his toe longer? He did get a pretty aggressive trim this time to try to get rid of as much of the dead/rotted material as possible.

    The gauge we used to try to help us get him balanced. It goes from about 40-65degrees. We certainly aren't farriers and are just learning so we figured it would help us be within a good range. Is this wrong?

    What can we do different next time?

    Yes he does have very flat feet and yes the flare was just as bad on the other foot. I'll try to remember to get pics from the sides so you can see the angles of his hoofs and legs. Thanks for all your help.

    Oh, also, we are treating each foot for thrush/white line disease.
         
        05-09-2013, 10:25 AM
      #55
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    I gave you a website earlier, Bare Foot Horse
    Describes nicely how to trim, take care of flare and shorten toes without taking away much needed toe callus and sole. Have a look at the chapters " white line strategy" and " do trim"
         
        05-09-2013, 11:10 AM
      #56
    Weanling
    I did check out the website thank you for posting the link. I was letting my dad take the lead on the trimming. He trims his horses for boots so I think that is why he is getting into the live sole. I have never trimmed my own horse before so I'm learning as I go. Thank you for the suggestions and the links.

    He isn't sore today so that's a good thing. I'll keep learning and working on it. Hopefully by the end of the year (with some help from you guys and my hoof class) he'll have pretty good feet.
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        05-09-2013, 11:21 AM
      #57
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    I've found that, if you don't have a loosie or a Trinity close by, you're better off learning it yourself....or teaching dad
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        05-09-2013, 06:26 PM
      #58
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BoldComic    
    Okay so you would have left his toe longer? He did get a pretty aggressive trim this time to try to get rid of as much of the dead/rotted material as possible.
    Like I said, need different angle pix & such to have a more accurate idea, but if your dad only scraped away loose, dead sole, yeah, that's OK, but if, as it appears, he rasped into the sole plane, that's not. That's not how you 'shorten' the toe & if it's too long because of 'dropped' soles then you need to *facilitate* the hooves *growing* shorter gradually, by driving the internal structures higher over time, not try to force it by just trimming the bottom off & further thinning the sole.

    But what many people mean by 'shortening the toe' is that it's flared forward & *walls* need backing up - you don't shorten it on the ground surface, past the sole level.

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    The gauge we used to try to help us get him balanced.
    Yeah, tried to explain it's not a good idea to cut to certain angles or preconceived 'ideal' measurements. It can be interesting to gauge the changes in the foot over time by measuring lengths & angles though.

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    He trims his horses for boots so I think that is why he is getting into the live sole.
    Nope, that is no reason. It shouldn't be done, regardless what you're putting on your horse's feet.
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        05-09-2013, 06:32 PM
      #59
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    If you want to learn yourself & you really don't have anyone to learn from first hand or workshops at least(do keep trying as 'remote' learning isn't as effective no matter how good it is) I recommend you get Pete Ramey's 'Under The Horse' DVD set. Comprehensive & clear.
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        05-09-2013, 09:55 PM
      #60
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    What causes dropped soles?
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