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    02-21-2014, 10:20 PM
  #1
Weanling
Unhappy Club Foot and Soreness and Thrush, Oh My!

We have some issues.
-First of all, would ToMORROW or Thrush-XX be better to treat this thrush? I have access to both and will be treating him tonight. I've heard copper-based thrush remedies can be pretty harsh on live tissue.
-Second, it's right at 8 weeks since he had a conservative trim, and the farrier is scheduled Monday. Zeus seemed pretty sore (today) on his fronts on harder ground, but was cantering and threw a buck in the deep snow. He wouldn't lift his back hooves at all, so I did the best I could with pictures.
-What do you see needs changed in his hooves? I'll post after-trimming photos Monday.

Left Front Lateral:


Left Front Medial:


Left Front Toe:


Left Front Heel():


Left Front Sole:


Left Front Balance:


Left Front Concavity:


Right Front Lateral:


Right Front Medial:


Right Front Toe:


Right Front Heel:


Right Front Sole:
**Will Post Tonight**

Right Front Balance:


Right Front Concavity:


*continued on next post*
     
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    02-21-2014, 10:28 PM
  #2
Weanling
Left Hind Lateral:
**Will Post Tonight**

Left Hind Medial:


Left Hind Toe:


Left Hind Heel:


Left Hind Sole:


Left Hind Balance:


Left Hind Concavity:



Right Hind Lateral:


Right Hind Medial:


Right Hind Toe:


Right Hind Heel:


Right Hind Sole:


Right Hind Balance:


Right Hind Concavity:
     
    02-21-2014, 10:46 PM
  #3
Weanling
If you can't see the photos, go here for the album:Zeus's Hooves
And if you STILL can't, let me know, and I'll upload to another site.
Thank you!
     
    02-22-2014, 01:23 AM
  #4
Trained
Well, he has pretty white soles. :)
Poor fellow, is this a heavy horse? What I see wrong, and I am not a professional, he has some pretty significant flaring and long toes. And what looks like (from photos), imbalance in heel height. He needs an aggressive trim aimed at addressing those issues. Not that his feet can be made "perfect" in one trim, but he needs enough in the right places to get him on his way to "perfect"...including trimming the bars in the hinds.
     
    02-22-2014, 01:39 AM
  #5
Trained
Oh....thrush. Everyone has their personal preference for a "go to" thrush medication. Lots of choices. But, since Tomorrow is used for mastitis in cattle, I am guessing it isn't threatening to tissue. I have never used it for thrush, personally.

I always scrub the hoof w providone, rinse and dry it before I medicate. It removes as many microbes that can be removed by scrubbing and rinsing so that you can start w the lowest "microbe count" possible.

He may very well be sore from a bad thrush infection. It is one of those things that is not necessarily easy to see in a photo. If he were mine, I would probably want xrays to see if there is anything "else" going on there.
     
    02-22-2014, 01:47 AM
  #6
Started
My bf uses bleach water. I rather use vinegar and water. Soak the hoof in the solution and it clears up quick.

I would agree with Missy May too!
     
    02-22-2014, 07:00 AM
  #7
Trained
Without knowing the whole 'picture' it is possible they - esp the left fore are truly 'clubby' but for the most part it looks to me like they're just in desperate need for some *good* trimming. Esp the right fore, which I suspect may have been allowed to grow more heel to better 'match' the other. They will however need to be lowered gradually, which will also mean more frequent trims - the farrier no matter how good can only be chasing his tail if only 8 weekly visits, on feet like that IMO. Be interested to see after trim pics.

Thrush - I tend to use t-tree oil &/or Manuka honey. I do not use heavy chems on frogs. The flappy bits of diseased tissue need to be cut away too.
     
    02-22-2014, 01:59 PM
  #8
Weanling
He's definitely got a lot of winter weight to lose. There's been so much ice this year that we've barely been riding :( Mostly work on ground manners. Here's a pic from front:

And side:


I'll do a vinegar and water soak, then tea tree oil and see how he does. As for trimming, I'll definitely have them on a shorter schedule. The last farrier seemed to take off a bit more heel in his club foot, and he got around like normal. I know that can put strain on tendons, since they don't stretch to adapt, but would that be something to bring up to her Monday? Also, should I cut the flaps or wait and have her do it? I have a hoof knife, but I don't want to mess anything up!
     
    02-22-2014, 04:56 PM
  #9
Trained
If you're using vinegar for the thrush, I'd just squirt it on with a spray bottle, neat. If the trimmer is coming tomorrow, might as well wait, but there's no harm in trimming just the daggy, already necrotic bits off.

You are correct that tendons don't stretch. But they are attached to muscles that do. So long as heels are lowered gradually(I never change heel angle more than about 1/2" per trim, if deemed necessary) that won't be a problem. Looking at hoof balance, alignment of bony column & body balance though, it may be that left fore *should* be a bit 'high heeled' though, which is what cannot be told just from these pics. So if he's been 'clubby' long term, I'd be inclined to get a bodyworker too if it needs to be changed substantially. Also extra Mg in the diet will help muscles release.
     
    02-22-2014, 05:16 PM
  #10
Trained
Well, he is just adorable! Not a big fellow at all (or maybe he is, and just looks smaller?). I hope you post the "after pics" and that all goes well.
     

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