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post #21 of 31 Old 10-25-2013, 04:40 PM
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If you don't have good improvement in 2 months, IMO, you will need to change your approach and get aggressive on that toe. The problem is, it just grows so muxch in between you never get ahead because its already so far out of balance and so far forward. The bone doesnt really move, only the hoof capsule and soft tissue around the bone is distorting. Y0ou have to trim to and for the bone and ligaments. Im just trying to pass on what took me painful and frustrating years to learn ;) So hard to do online! ELPO conformed what I suspected for a long time after working with founder cases and getting rid of toe way into the soles. Instant fix (practically) is possible with the right trim and the right protection. I love rameys general style for maintenance as I am not fond of the pillars concept long term personally but you just need more when it comes to out of whack toes and a slipped forward hoof capsule. They are one of the hardest things to fix IME.




Maybe watch some videos and take the protocol and just do the mapping and see what you find. The main thing is findinf that real apex of the frog, Its def stretched.
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Congrats Trinity! Although as a married person you may want to change your avatar pic now, in case your husband sees it & is scared!

As usual, your different perspective has said better what I tried to explain. What is your opinion of the radiograph & fluffy's assertion that hoof form & angle is the same as it was then? If that is correct, then the toe wall hasn't 'rotated' away, as it appears to have done from the pics. I also question the angle of P3 in relation to the ground, compared with the rad.
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IMO the x ray it too out of date to be very helpful now. If you just want another updated Xray. Make sure they mark the apex of the frog with a thumbtack this time tho for sure and mark the coronet.

X ray overlayed to current photo close as I could figure. Toe seems more flared to me now.

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Yep & thinking heels also higher than appears in rad.
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I actually think I got the bones too small. The tip of P3 is closer to the bottom of the sole IMO. That's what I get when I hurry ;) The xray also appeared to be taken at slightly below ground level.

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Wow, Pretty cool imposing the xray on top of the hoof. Yea, that hoof and xray are about 8 months apart.
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Congrats Trinity! Although as a married person you may want to change your avatar pic now, in case your husband sees it & is scared!

As usual, your different perspective has said better what I tried to explain. What is your opinion of the radiograph & fluffy's assertion that hoof form & angle is the same as it was then? If that is correct, then the toe wall hasn't 'rotated' away, as it appears to have done from the pics. I also question the angle of P3 in relation to the ground, compared with the rad.
I don't understand "rotated" toe wall. What is it?
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Looks like the rad heel needs to be lowered.
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Looks like the rad heel needs to be lowered.
Or work the horse on surfaces and let him do it? Horses can self trim and given the correct diet and work they will get it right, but they might not look the way we want them too.
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I don't understand "rotated" toe wall. What is it?
aka stretched forward or 'rotated' P3 in relation to the capsule &/or ground surface/bony column. It doesn't look that way at all in the rad, but...

Yeah I think the bone is probably a bit lower than your 'overlay' too Trinity. Interesting ones Fluffy, as it looks as though heels are too high, considering the bony column, based on the pics, but *assuming* the rad still shows an accurate idea, that's not the case. I think rads would look different now.
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