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post #1 of 9 Old 08-05-2013, 10:31 AM Thread Starter
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Critique/advice on staples for quarter crack...

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Would love some broader and knowledgeable feedback, please!
My darling arabian mare is currently barefoot. She has had a quarter crack on her right fore for as long as I've had her. My previous trimmer/farrier suggested we just maintain it, and he would trim it every 5 weeks, 'digging' it out a little so that the edges don't touch the ground when she stands to take some pressure off the crack, helping it to stay closed. I hope that makes sense :)

The crack never got worse, but never got better. It seems to stem from an injury on the coronet band, so it grows out from top to bottom.

In a desperate attempt to finally see if I can get rid of it permanently, I asked my new farrier if I should shoe my mare, but he suggested we rather move her trimming schedule up to every 2-3 weeks, and then he put two metal staples in the foot to keep the edges from coming apart.

Here are the pictures of 3 weeks ago when they were first put in (I don't have any before pictures, sorry, and these are fuzzy, super sorry)





And here is today.



What are your opinions on this? Could it work? Is it a viable option? My farrier isnt sure, because of the crack originating from the coronet band, but thinks we could give it a try.
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I had a mare with terrible cracked feet on three hovers. She was unsound on both fronts. One crack down the front of her hoof was so bad she looked cloven footed and it would open and close as she walked on it.
My farrier stapled this crack together but used a shoeing nail going across the hoof and far higher up than yours has done. The reason for the higher positioning was so to didn't have to be reapplied every month.
The other thing he did was to burn across the top of the crack near to the coronary band.
I helped with foot growth by rubbing the coronary bands with a hoof grease for 5 minutes each foot every day. I used a toothbrush to rub it in. Her feet grew out in around 6 months and the crack with them. She was shod all the time.
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Aside from all the work presently done, which is good, you really have to find out what made this quarter crack in the first place. It's usually an imbalance in the trim. Look at the hoof across like a champagne glass and make sure the heels ,and ,toes are perfectly level, not one heel higher and the opposite toe higher. Also check to see the bars if they stand up like they're supposed to or cover the sole or totally trimmed away. All those factors can put a "torque" on the hoof which the horse's hoof relieves with a quarter crack. They are different than a crack that starts at the ground.
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Unless its a scar causing a growth defect of horn. If that's the case, it will always be a defect and can't be fixed, just managed. It doesnt look split to me but im on my phone. Is this just a line or an actual split? The feet themselves look pretty good to me. I think I see alot of quarter scoop which can exacerbate cracks like this.
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if it truly stems from an injury on the coronet band, it won't go away
Never seen staples...
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Unless its a scar causing a growth defect of horn. If that's the case, it will always be a defect and can't be fixed, just managed. It doesnt look split to me but im on my phone. Is this just a line or an actual split? The feet themselves look pretty good to me. I think I see alot of quarter scoop which can exacerbate cracks like this.
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Thanks for all the advice everyone.
What do you mean by quarter scoop? It's a line that starts to split where it touches the ground.
My farrier says he thinks the line/crack stems from a scar, so he thinks it's prob not going away. But he doesn't seem sure either, so I feel as if I can just wait and see, which I don't like :)
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The Glorious Hoof!: The Quarter Scoop - Quick Notes


Now that I see it on a monitor and not my phone it doesnt look as big. If you look at it from the ground (you can take a picture on level ground with the camera on the ground and see how much scoop is actually there) You can better see how scooped it is.

I wouldnt worry. I have had client horses with huge scaring defects and they never hurt anything and never split with the horse in use and barefoot. This one is very very minor. Flip the hoof over and look at it from the bottom. Is there a crack through the hoof wall thickness to the whiteline? That might signify a problem. Fungal issues or hidden white line..but it doesnt appear that way to me from here. Looks very benign.

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Thanks trinity. Yes, well it seems both my farriers scooped out a little where the crack touches the ground/sole. They said it would relieve the pressure that opens up the crack with the horse's bodyweight on the hoof.
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Firstly, it appears from the last pic it is slowly getting better(?) and that the horse is well trimmed and on dry footing? Looks like the crack is very shallow and hopefully infection free?

I don't believe it matters what caused the crack in the first place, but it won't likely get better if the trim isn't balanced &/or there is untreated infection present. If it is due to serious injury through the coronary border it may also be permanent, but if well managed can become a non event or just a 'fault line' not an actual crack.

If a crack has any sign of infection - black lines, soft or wet tissue, crumbly whitish for eg - I would 'explore' it with a hoof knife and clean/resect it as much as necessary, as well as treating it topically.

If it is deep and high up the hoof wall - say past half way, I would consider bracing across the face of it with a staple or plate, to keep the wall integrity above while it grows out. However to do this, it needs bracing high up, near the top of the crack, not at the base or try to hold it together with a shoe, as this will only put more pressure on the crack further up & potentially make it buckle out more. Not quite the same, but to give you the idea, try holding your fingers together just at the tips & then putting your weight on them. Doesn't stop them coming apart does it, but it puts more pressure further up.

So... Appears its on the way out & managed ok otherwise. I'd be inclined to treat it topically & scrape it out lightly at least, to ensure no infection, but don't think a staple like that looks necessary or helpful in that case.
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