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        02-11-2014, 01:17 AM
      #11
    Trained
    Well, they certainly look like they are "progressing" very nicely. If it were me, I wouldn't be able to resist the urge to back the front toes off a little bit and "monitor" the growth thereafter and rasp a little more if it looked "appropriate".

    If the heels are just a smidge above (longer than) the frogs, and the frogs currently look like the nice "after trim" pics above, then I would guess they are not to long. JMO.

    Just as a matter of interest, the angle of the bars on the right front vs the left front are considerably different, and the heels appear to be closer together in one than the other - which could just be the photo. Maybe her fronts were different lengths for a bit? She favored one? It is nice they are "on their way", now.
         
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        04-05-2014, 07:47 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Here's updated pics after another trim a few days prior. I only got side pictures and please excuse the mud. I'm really hoping were still heading in the right direction!!









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        04-05-2014, 08:40 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Don't shoot me! But it looks like they've taken one step back. Maybe it's the pictures. Pictures can be deceiving, it's not like holding the hoof . Is this someone new again?

    Those rasp marks are not acceptable.
    You can tell a lot by holding a straight edge on the front of the hoof, vertical, and see how much "dip" there is in the wall. In Feb. It looked like one more trim would have gotten your cutie pie to where he should be, no dip.
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        04-05-2014, 09:06 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Thank you! And nope, still the same lady that's been trimming him since feb
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        04-06-2014, 12:52 AM
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    Banned
    Sorry but I am old school.
    "you do not rasp away the walls!!"
    Do that to my horses feet and there will be serious problem!!
         
        04-06-2014, 06:34 AM
      #16
    Trained
    Really need better pics to give more accurate opinions. That said, speculating on what can be seen here, it appears that the 3rd pic is good, hoof/pastern & hairline angles better(to potentially show good P3 angle/heel height), toe backed. But not sure why the others are different? It appears toes have been bevelled from underneath, but in pic I chose to draw on, toe wall is on the ground, despite stretching - I'd bevel the toes to round off the wall, more like it seeems in that 3rd pic, rather than it being done only underneath.

    Lines & angles(rotated the pic a bit) are approximately how it seem they 'should' be. Assuming(I know it's not) that pic was taken squarely from the ground level, Where the 'breakover' & curve of the toe is, that is probably pretty close to how I'd handle it.
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        04-06-2014, 07:54 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Loosie, your markup makes the hoof look like it was attainable at that trim.

    Amigo, I feel the same way about rasping the outside away. I'd rather not. I have with a flared hoof, then sanded to "close the pores" in a way. I always wonder tho why some rasp it away like it's nothing when it does have a good purpose.
         
        04-07-2014, 12:20 AM
      #18
    Trained
    I generally draw 2 sets of lines Fluffy, one in green, to show approx where the foot 'should' be if healthy & one in blue to show how I'd trim to facilitate that. Sometimes I draw red lines to emphasis what's wrong. Didn't take the time for the blue lines earlier... Blue rounded line at toe to illustrate how I'd bevel the toe *from underneath, assuming that was a ground level pic.*

    I don't think there's any functional purpose whatsoever in sanding walls after rasping. That is purely cosmetic, to clear away rasp marks & such. There are no 'pores' to close & sanding wouldn't do that anyway. The periosteum layer of the outer wall is largely impervious when intact. Even with flared walls, I don't rasp the surface of the wall, past about 1" up, max, because this is also largely cosmetic & can also weaken the wall unnecessarily, as well as removing the periople. Addressing the *mechanics causing the flare* from the ground is the big thing.
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        04-07-2014, 12:30 AM
      #19
    Trained
    ^Also figured 'where to trim' lines were not so relevant given the angle of the pics - can only be very rough at best. Also just noticed I said periosteum when I meant periople.
         
        04-07-2014, 10:07 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    LOL, I knew what you meant. In fact, I missed the whole thing. I hate rasping the walls, but sometimes I have to rasp a bit further . I do hate rasping away any protection they have or I assume they have.

    Boy I had to do a lot of flare mechanics today. 3 horses, all super ultra flared, chips, etc. I had to really search for the sole. I had no choice but to leave some flare because it was the only wall there. Hopefully I just prevented more from happening.
         

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