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    04-18-2012, 03:23 AM
  #1
Weanling
Unhappy Deep Sulcus Thrush - the nightmare begins

Hello,

I am seeking some advice as I am feeling quite overwhelmed by the problem I have. Apologies in advance for the novel... feeling very disheartened!

Candy was diagnosed with an infection (thrush) in both front hooves on Monday, 16 April. Now that I understand what the problem is, I am extremly angry at myself for not being educated enough and not regonising the problem earlier. Because I understand it more now, I am aware that poor Candy has actually had this problem for quite some time (I am talking months - it was only until the lameness showed that I called the vet, if I had done it earlier the infection would not be this bad). What I don't understand, is why my farrier either didn't pick up on her slowing collapsing-inward and unhealthy frogs, or why he just didn't bother to tell me. But, you can't blame others and as a horse owner I should have been aware of this problem!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, enough sulking - the frogs have contracted inwards creating a nice juicy crack for bacteria to thrive. It is extremely sensitive to touch, and because of this I haven't even tried treatments I have read on the internet ie: pushing a cotton tip soaked in iodine/vinegar/pete's goo into the sulci to reach the bacteria. I literally can barely swab/pat the area with a soaked iodine gauze pad without her objecting.

The vet has prescribed daily iodine gauze wrapped in bandage along with iodine foot soaks, and trimming every 4 weeks. I have been doing this (bar the trimming as its only been 3 days), but I read that yes, iodine does kill the bacteria, but it also attacks new tissues which is completely dehabilitating in the long run for the growth of a healthy frog - which is needed to ultimately clear the infection up (NO cracks should be present - just a dip). Any cracks and the horse gets thrush all over again.

Has anyone else had experience clearing thrush with iodine? Today was the first day I managed to convince her to put her feet in the soaking boots and filled with warm water + iodine + epsom salts. Not sure if this will be that effective. Soaked each foot for 15 minutes then vet wrapped, nappied and duck taped both hooves.

Unfortunately is pouring rain here and me being in a paddock with no stables available or yards is not helping me keep the hooves dry OR clean (I have emailed two other places for temporary stabling or SOME kind of shelter so I can get this under control). I wrapped her this morning and its now 5:30pm, so I bet the duck tape is destroyed and her hooves are soaked all over again

So what has worked best for you and your thrush treatments, particularily those cases where the heels are contracted? And how long did it take to heal completely?

I've read about white lighting/white vinegar and oxine AH which treat the thrush without harming the good tissue... but both of these require plastic bag/sealed type of bag on the foot and my patient is as difficult as you can imagine. She would be terrified of anything plastic on her feet!

I bought a rubber matt for her to stand on (as there is no concrete clean surface at my paddock) and that didn't work as she is terrified of it and wont stand on it. Spent some time making her walk over it but couldn't get her to stand on it for more than a few minutes. So have been having to walk 2km each way to the wash bays down the other end of the property, takes me an hour of walking :((((((

Also saw that honey can help? Teatree oil...apple cider vinegar?

Waaaah I'm feeling so hopeless :(

The farrier is coming out tomorrow as she's due for a trim - not looking forward to this as she's so sensitive even with the bute. I'll see what he says and give you guys an update.
     
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    04-18-2012, 03:23 AM
  #2
Weanling
Will also try and get some pictures tomorrow.
     
    04-18-2012, 03:40 AM
  #3
Started
I would definitely suggest trying to get her to some place that is going to stay more or less clean and dry for a while until you can get this under control.

My kiddo was recently diagnosed with a much milder case (I've just recently been able to handle his feet as he is a mustang I gentled... the thrush developed before I was able to begin proper hoof care). Anyway, I've been experimenting with this stuff: NO THRUSH - The First Ever DRY Equine Treatment. Natural, safe, Results in 3-5 days

It seems to me like it's been helping, and one of my favorite parts about this stuff is that it's practically impossible to overdo it. Some of the other thrush medications can actually be harmful if too much is used or they're left on too long. This stuff doesn't have any harsh chemicals that can cause problems.
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    04-18-2012, 06:13 AM
  #4
Showing
Thrush buster also works really well.

But you're going to need a dry place first. Go find one.. stuff your horse's frog full of cotton, push it in deep and squirt Thrush buster on the cotton and over the frog. Change it out daily and you'll see improvement. Spray apple cider on the frog to dry it out and keep the thrush at bay.

Best of luck, OP.
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    04-18-2012, 06:56 AM
  #5
Weanling
Apply "Tomorrow" dry cow mastitis treatment from Fort Dodge products to the central sulcus. Stuff cotton balls into the sulcus after application.

The active ingredient is cephapirin. It delivers bactericidal levels of antibiotic to the effected area. The product acts in a prolonged manner via the low solubility of the gel.

Iodine is effective when used in a dry environment but its solubility in water reduces that value in a wet environment.

Your local feed store should carry it or you can find it here: ToMORROW® Dry Cow

Cheers,
Mark
     
    04-18-2012, 08:28 AM
  #6
Yearling
Sugardine is an oldtimer's remedy for Thrush. Mix granulated white table sugar and Iodine to the consistency of thick honey. Pack the frog and sole of the hoof with Surgardine and use a folded baby diaper to make a pad to place on the sole and use lots of duct tape to wrap the hoof, but be careful to not get the duct tape above the coronet band. This is a tried and true "ages old" treatment for Thrush. I had a horse here at one time who had a case of Thrush and I used the Sugardine with him after my Vet trimmed away the infected frog. It will be necessary to repack and wrap the hoof at least once a day, two times a day is better.

It will be necessary to try and find a dry footing environment until your horse's hooves have healed.

Best Wishes and keep us updated on his progress...
     
    04-18-2012, 08:34 AM
  #7
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by candandy49    
Sugardine is an oldtimer's remedy for Thrush. Mix granulated white table sugar and Iodine ...

See this is where I am confused. Sugar seems to feed fungus.. which is why I went the Thrush buster and apple cider vinegar route.

Quote:
The more sugar you consume the more active your fungus becomes.
From: Sugar and Fungus

I know the horse isn't exactly eating sugar but it still was a cause of concern.
     
    04-18-2012, 09:01 AM
  #8
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
See this is where I am confused. Sugar seems to feed fungus.. which is why I went the Thrush buster and apple cider vinegar route.
I thought the same thing about the sugar..
Couldn't vinegar be a little stingy to the foot?
Pine shavings in a barn can drawn out moisture. I use Thrush X or Copertox.
Some people use a Bleach solution.


From: Sugar and Fungus

I know the horse isn't exactly eating sugar but it still was a cause of concern.
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    04-18-2012, 09:32 AM
  #9
Yearling
Oh My, eating sugar, fungus and prostrate cancer are so totally different in the contradiction of terms where Sugardine is concerned. Sugardine is a topically applied poltice that draws out infection from where it is applied. I suggest you research Sugardine. ~HUGS~
     
    04-18-2012, 11:59 AM
  #10
Weanling
I live in VA and have my own issues with thrush...my farrier had me mix 40% formaldehyde and 60% iodine together and apply that to the hoof where the thrush was hiding, primarily on either side of the frog twice a week. In between this I cleaned the hoof each day and like you, I really have no way to keep them off of the mud or wet ground, they HATE being in their stalls so this is what I did and after a few weeks, it began to go away. Now I hardly ever have trouble with thrush, and I am to the point I use the mixture maybe a few times a month when I smell it....

Hope this helps.
     

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