Do farriers refuse service because the horse doesn't stand well?

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    06-07-2014, 11:46 AM
Do farriers refuse service because the horse doesn't stand well?

I came upon a "Farrier Wanted" ad on Facebook recently, and it piqued my interest. Someone commented and told the person that the farriers they were calling probably wouldn't come because their horse didn't stand well, and they were probably trying to "save their bodies" by refusing such horses.

Have you EVER heard of a farrier refusing their services just because a horse wouldn't stand well? Now I know their are degrees of standing problems. Most of my horses stand well enough for me, but move a bit when the farrier comes. All the farriers I've used are patient people, willing to familiarize themselves with the horse until it feels comfortable enough to let them work with it. I always apologize profusely, but they always tell me, "They're not bad. I've had much worse."

I can understand refusing a horse that kicks. That's dangerous, and no one wants to be out of work. But refusing because the horse doesn't stand well? That doesn't sound right to me. I could understand how lack of time could make it darned inconvenient, but I don't think they'd refuse a job altogether.

Anyone else's thoughts on this?
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    06-07-2014, 11:51 AM
I don't know of any farriers that would refuse to work on horses that may fuss a bit.
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    06-07-2014, 11:53 AM
Depends on what 'doesn't stand well' means.

If the horse shies, kicks, snatches their feet, or leans it's not only difficult for the farrier but also dangerous.

No farrier is required to put up with an ill mannered horse. You want your pick of good farriers, teach your beast some manners.
    06-07-2014, 11:56 AM
Not standing well is a very diffuse meaning.
You have too be more exact.
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    06-07-2014, 12:20 PM
If the horse is fussing a little I don't think the farrier would decline the work.

If the horse needs an extra hour or two of time because its fussing that much, well not all farriers can afford to put that much time into an appointment. I've seen farriers decline to work with a horse, but I've also seen what the horse was doing and was not surprised.
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    06-07-2014, 12:31 PM
Time is money. Unless you make an extended appointment and are willing to pay extra then the farrier can refuse to do your horse. He's trying to keep to his schedule as others are waiting. It is up to the owner to have the horse stand still and not fuss. It helps to tire the horse first and I don't mean lunging for 20 min. But get out and ride him hard for an hour. A pooped horse is more willing to stand quietly.
    06-07-2014, 12:32 PM
It takes my farrier 3x as long to do Nick as it does Rio. Nick has some leg problems and loses his balance easily when he picks up his feet. So he is constantly leaning on the farrier and snatching his feet back. It's very frustrating but he truly cannot help it. If I'm available I brace myself on Nick's opposite side so he can lean on me and that helps the process go much faster. I am so grateful for my patient farrier!
    06-07-2014, 12:55 PM
Most experienced farriers will tell newer farriers, "Don't stand under bad horses."

There is a difference between a horse that is a little wiggly, unbalanced or impatient and a horse that is actually dangerous. A bad horse can make you unable to work for weeks or even months if you get injured terribly and all those less serious battle wounds add up over 10-20-30 years. There is also usually other horses to shoe so if you have business elsewhere there is no reason to take on a dangerous client. Its also the owners job to train the horses to stand not the farriers.
    06-07-2014, 12:56 PM
There is a huge difference, as tinev demonstrates, between a spoiled rotten, dangerous animal and a horse who has legitimate reasons to need lots of breaks. My horse does, and I know that, so I offer them to her before she has to tell me more loudly, and it helps her be all the more patient and trusting.

If I were a farrier and knew the difference between a naughty, spoiled horse and a sensitive one I would be happy to refuse work, unless I really needed it. But I would also be very clear with the owner WHY and how to rectify the situation in terms they can clearly understand.

Eta: I cross-posted with roux...yes, what roux said. :o)
    06-07-2014, 01:05 PM
I believe most farriers are willing to work with a horse that has pain/soundness issues. Allow more time and pay the farrier extra. Give the horse bute prior to the appointment. There are ways to work through this.
But it is not the farrier's job to train or be injured by a poorly managed animal. A farrier might offer suggestions to a novice owner but for these people time is money and if they get hurt they don't work.

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