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        06-07-2014, 12:17 PM
      #11
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    Time is money to a Farrier - just the same as it is to anyone else.
    If they're good they'll be busy and won't appreciate having to waste time with a horse that's acting up
    Its our job to get our horses trained ready for them - a good one will understand that a young horse takes a bit more patience to get used to the process but constantly fidgeting around doesn't really count IMO
         
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        06-07-2014, 12:18 PM
      #12
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    There's absolutely a difference between a horse with physical issues and one who just hasn't been trained to mind their manners.

    My 27 y/o gelding has arthritis, so my farrier takes his time with him and gives him breaks in between feet. Mack doesn't snatch or kick though, just leans a little when he starts feeling tired or sore.
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        06-07-2014, 01:12 PM
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    A good shoer should notice any abnormalities such as stiffness or pain.
    It helps if the owner makes the shoer aware that the horse may have a trouble giving the leg.
    Communication helps.
         
        06-07-2014, 01:57 PM
      #14
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    Absolutely yes.

    There is no typical reason a competent farrier will work with a horse that is likely to injure them. If they're good at their job, they've got plenty of cooperative horses on their list they need to get to. If they're desperate for work, maybe they'll take a little more risk of getting injured because they need the job.

    "Refuse to stand" is pretty darn vague though. It could mean everything from set back, flip over, kick and rear to just fussing a little depending on who's saying it. None of the good farriers I've met have an issue with a horse with medical or pain issues, or even your run of the mill impatience. There's a big difference to their safety and ability to do a proper job between that and a horse that's going to hurt you through either fear, lack of training, or aggressive/reactive behavior.

    My guy can get a bit impatient and want to pull his foot away. He's gotten much better, but even at the start when he was at his 'worst' and I apologized for it, I was told that yes, he was a bit antsy, but that he wasn't that bad on the scale of the horses my farrier sees daily. And he was one that had more work than he could do and no hesitation about refusing to work on dangerous horses or for unpleasant owners. He didn't mind being patient or working with the horses, and was never rough, but valued his health and ability to continue to earn a living too.
         
        06-07-2014, 02:00 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    My husband used to shoe for the public says, never refused horses but the price started going up depending on how ill mannered the horse or the owner was. Usually it was due to the owner.
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        06-07-2014, 02:20 PM
      #16
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    Mine have always worked with a horse that is a bit fussy, but they only have to once. By the next time the horse will be fine. That is my responsibility.

    The farriers I know will refuse to shoe or trim ill mannered horses if the owner is unable or unwillingly to make one behave.
         
        06-07-2014, 09:04 PM
      #17
    Weanling
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    Have you EVER heard of a farrier refusing their services just because a horse wouldn't stand well?
    Heck yes, me included. The DEGREE of 'not standing' well enough to take the job differs among farriers but the older and smarter we veteran farriers get the less it takes to refuse a horse.
    It HURTS our bodies. And it is not our job to train them either.
         
        06-07-2014, 09:09 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    Separated ribs, broken toes, stitches , mashed fingers, back injuries, nail gaffs in fingers and hands, various kicks, and getting tossed ten feet in the air against a blanket rack makes for smarter farriers. Like me.
    Over the first fifteen years of my thirty year career I endured all of those injuries . Back I was willing to take on rude or really green horses. Not any more.
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        06-07-2014, 09:12 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    I like the older European way of shoeing that a few farriers over there might still use... the horse trainer or owner has to hold the foot up for the farrier. THAT will get them to train the horses to stand still.
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        06-07-2014, 09:59 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Farriers have the right to not service a horse that does not stand well. Many farriers do not want to put themselves in danger
         

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