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    04-07-2013, 12:13 AM
Ironically the mud has little to do with the sulcus thrush. It's more the hoof being down under the mud to where no air can get to it and allowing the little micro-organisms to get in there. It can also be caused by contracted heels. If your horse has a heel bulb "crack" normally, that is more the problem than the mud. Hopefully your Just keep it as clean as you can. It will heal. Once you get on top of the sulcus thrush, continue to scrub the frogs with Dawn and water every few days to keep the bugs at bay. My horse is also currently standing in mud. The Dawn thing works great as a preventive measure.
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    04-07-2013, 12:14 AM
I used a mastitis treatment for cows on my horse. From farmvet I think. Worked great- apply 2X a day for 2 weeks- thrush gone...

My farrier scraped out the icky stuff that was inside the frog so good stuff would grow. Not sure if this is the right thing to do, but it worked.

Good luck- thrush is really tough, especially in constant wetness
    04-07-2013, 12:46 AM
Well I can clean it out good tomorrow but have nothing to treat with.

Maybe Ill bring him in at night so his feet can dry out some. My barn is dryed out from flooding now. His hoofs are pretty mushy soft even the sole is real mushy.
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    04-07-2013, 09:35 AM
My farrier described hooves as sponges. They absorb water and then dry out when in dry conditions. Lots of wet-dry can cause cracking and such. He suggested we move my horse to just field board, so he wasn't moving from stall to field every day. This may have been just becase mine had shoes on, but it's something to think about.
    04-07-2013, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by spirit88    
That hoof is cleaned out and I can stick a hoof pick in that crack id say a good inch.
Haven't smelled it so don't know if it stinks.

As far as needing a trim don't know when that will happen can't find a farrier. I sure can't trim him iv been hurting to bad.
You're dealing with deep sulci thrush

An FYI is that deep sulci thrush does not always have an odor to it, which is why it so often gets missed by vets and farriers

Treating the hooves is a lot more time-consuming and grueling than it is expensive.

If you live in dairy cow country, your local Co-Op, feed store, or Tractor Supply should carry either dry cow treatments called "ToMorrow" or "ToDay". Folks that have used both say "ToMorrow" works better. I have only used ToMorrow and it is the magic bullet.

If you're able to bring him in at night, you would have to put some shavings down in the stall and keep clean shavings in there.

You would have to soak his hooves either with a mix of warm water and betadyne, or warm water and Hibiclens (sp?). I think drug stores also carry Hibiclens.

A lady on another forum invented a most fantastic idea for soaking all four hooves at once:

She wallpapered the outside of (4) gallon-sized ziplock bags so they wouldn't tear, put enough of the water/mix in the bag to cover the hooves, then duct taped the bags around the horse's legs.

That poor horse had the most pitiful look on his face but,Love Him, he stood quietly for the time she soaked him.

She patted the hooves dry with paper towels, shot the ToMorrow into the sulci, then made a 50-50 past of diaper rash cream and triple antibiotic ointment to put over top of the ToMorrow to hold it in (ToMorrow is liquid and won't stay in the sulci on its own).

She then put him in a temporary pipe panel stall with temporary grid mats and shavings, in her barn. The improvement in those frogs in 48 hours was amazing.

The mud, along with all that manure mixed in, and the hooves not having a chance to dry out is what's causing all the problems.

If you can get the horse up at night on a dry floor and do the treatments, he won't heal over night but he will heal.

That is very painful for him and not prudent to ride him as it can be so painful he might try and buck you off, once his hooves have had all they can tolerate
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    04-07-2013, 02:56 PM
Walkinthewalk. Iam going to get the tomorrow when were in town Monday.

Didn't bring him in last night gotta get more shavings for stalls they are rubber matted. He doesn't appear to be sore. I checked my old mares feet she's got it to and she's lame. Has been lame but I chalked up to she's been off he joint supps.

Will be going out to clean feet real good then stall them while they dry stalls only have a very thin layer of shavings. My mare is 26 and crabby.
    04-07-2013, 06:41 PM
You'll be chasing your tail with his bad living environment. I'd definitely be moving him, yesterday, if at all possible. If not, expect worse to come until you can. While cooping horses up isn't good for them, I'd prefer to keep a horse in a dry stable than what you pictured!
    04-07-2013, 06:56 PM
Hmm, if you can get to the shop today, to get the today or tomorrow, that would be good, but don't wait for tomorrow to get the tomorrow or today What silly names!

Puck, while living in muck doesn't mean the horse will necessarily get thrush, because the bugs may not be present, but living in muck will have compromised the hooves a lot already, so make for easy entry of any bugs in question.

Yes, Spirit, if you can lock the horse on dry footing over night, that's better than nothing. If you can't manage it or find that's not good enough, I'd be looking for temporary agistment somewhere better.

Ashsunny, no, hooves aren't sponges. The sole & frog will absorb some water, but the walls(if whole, not split) won't absorb. Waterlogged environments do still damage them though.
    04-07-2013, 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by loosie    
You'll be chasing your tail with his bad living environment. I'd definitely be moving him, yesterday, if at all possible. If not, expect worse to come until you can. While cooping horses up isn't good for them, I'd prefer to keep a horse in a dry stable than what you pictured!
Moving him isn't possible no where else around here is any better its that time of year.

I have a farrier coming Wednesday morning so hopefully he can clean out some of the yuck. I keep my horses at home boarding out isn't a option right now with him home I can treat him every day.

Ill put him in the barn along with other 2 horses till we can scoop out the pens with bobcat. Don't have much choice will take them out for exercice every day.
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    04-08-2013, 01:45 PM
Ok got the tomorrow so how much do I put in their hoofs? It has 12 doses in the box don't recall the amount of each. Will look later

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