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post #1 of 6 Old 09-18-2013, 10:58 PM Thread Starter
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Dry split in frog and heel question

I realize that a picture would be helpful.... but i don't have any.

A week ago, my farrier told me that Sam had a touch of thrush in his front right hoof. This is my first experience with thrush, and it was a touch because it didn't smell all that bad. I bought Farnum Thrush XX and applied it to the hoof a few days in a row.

I squirted it on the frog concentrating on the crack at the back of the frog and let it drip down the frog and off the front of the hoof. I tried not to be messy, but some did get on the back of Sam's hoof above the frog.

Today while checking his hoof, I noticed the hair is missing. No scab or sore, but I probably burned him eh? Bad owner. Bad owner.

Should I put a little furzone on it (so the dirt sticks to him even more) or just let it go?

Also, how do you know when the thrush is gone? the frog is dry, not black, but dark in color, and he still has the crack. the crack is dry and appears to be closed up. the farrier told me to use the product while the crack was present, but maybe he meant until it healed/dried up?

Also, if I squirt some on the frog (being careful not to get it on skin) once a week when there is no thrush will I damage his hoof? use it like a maintenance treatment.

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Hi, I'm not familiar with copper napthenate, but if it's advised to keep out of contact with skin & that it can result in hairloss(it is), then no, I wouldn't use it on a horse's frogs, unless very conservatively & after other methods of treatment had failed. I wouldn't use a harsh chemical as a preventative/maintenance either.

I find removing the necrotic tissue(the daggy, infected bits) and spraying with t-tree oil is quite effective, without damaging the healthy tissue. Thrush usually smells bad & there may also be a lot of black gunk. But not necessarily.

I'm also interested in why the horse has thrush, particularly only on one foot. If his environment's mucky or damp, this isn't helpful & keeping him on dry footing as much as possible will help. If frogs are routinely trimmed this will increase susceptibility through weakening them. If his feet are unhealthy he will be far more susceptible to thrush. I'm guessing by 'crack' you mean his heels are contracted & central sulcus squeezed together to form a crack between the bulbs? I'm guessing that if it's only one foot, this is more contracted, perhaps higher heeled than the other?
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thank you for the reply.

I moved him from 24/7 pasture to a stall with 6-8 hrs turnout. His stall is a soft dirt floor with wood shavings and I have yet to find any "wet spots." It drains very well.

I suspect the thrush was a perfect storm. Stress at a new location, indoor rather than outdoor, different water, different hay... the list goes on. I was pretty concerned I screwed up bad moving him. Even his coat and mane/tail went to pot.

Since then, he has come around nicely and I am feeding him a ration balancer.

Another hoof does have a crack, but the frog didn't change. if I had to guess, I would say the soft dirt floor is sucking the moisture out rather than putting moisture in. My last farrier (new barn new farrier) always commented on how healthy his hooves were and even in the winter or the hottest driest summer months he didn't have problems. just great hooves.

based on what I've seen watching the farriers as they work, most trimming is done at the toe and very little at the heel. i know that the frog has been exfoliated, but i don't believe physically trimmed...

I guess I will try to get a photo when I go back on friday.
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Hi,

Yes, being kept stabled with too little exercise will also affect the hooves. Can he not be turned out more? It's good if he has firm, dry footing though & if it 'sucks the moisture out' that's a good thing at least.

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based on what I've seen watching the farriers as they work, most trimming is done at the toe and very little at the heel. i know that the frog has been exfoliated, but i don't believe physically trimmed...
Is it just this foot they do little at the heel on? Be interested to see feet. I don't get what you mean by the frog being 'exfoliated but not trimmed'.
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I used copper napthenate for years on any horse with thrush. It is sticky. It can work. You have to get the foot good and clean and dry... and then apply it and reapply it daily after fully cleaning the foot again.

I never had a hair loss issue with this stuff. If there is hair loss I would guess it would be more because the stuff it sticky than that it burns.

There are better products for thrush IMO but this is ages old and will work.

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A year ago or so our Belgian developed thrush in his back feet and we used No Thrush with really good results! NO THRUSH - The First Ever DRY Equine Treatment. Natural, safe, Results in 3-5 days
Their website is really informative with some great videos as well. Even though the thrush hasn't returned, it's in my "go to" stash of horse goodies!
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