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  • Farrier charged full price for only trimmng 2 feet
  • Rip off farriers

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    05-31-2012, 10:14 AM
  #21
Showing
I pay my farrier $25.00 for a trim, and $50.00 for a trim with front shoes. But then, I've been with my farrier a long time, I've never canceled on him, and I'm always doing things to help him out. Right now, he has my horse trailer. He's one of only a handful of people that I trust enough to lend it to.

I've never tipped him, and don't intend to start. If he wants extra money from me, all he has to do is up his prices. He refuses to charge me his going rate, since I've been with him since the beginning and have been a loyal customer.

OP, I think your friend may have just lost a good farrier by being a cheap-ass. Insulting his prices and calling him a rip off are a good way for him to tell her to kiss his backside.

Good farriers are hard to come by, but hacks are out there in plenty. If she's more worried about the price per trim than her horses being done correctly, maybe she needs to get rid of them.
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    06-03-2012, 01:42 AM
  #22
Weanling
I'm in south Mississippi and our farrier charges $30 for a trim. His normal price is $45 but he's a close friend and charges just enough to help with gas/expenses. We joke that he charges us just to visit because he always makes us his last stop and stays for 2-3 hours.
     
    06-04-2012, 11:18 AM
  #23
Yearling
My trimmer charges 30$, but I also have to pay a trip charge of 40$ because she drives an hour and a half to get here. Ill gladley pay it, considering most trimmers around here are self taught to make a little money on the weekends. Total for 2 horses is 100$ every 5 weeks.
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    06-04-2012, 12:05 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheLoop    
My trimmer charges 30$, but I also have to pay a trip charge of 40$ because she drives an hour and a half to get here. Ill gladley pay it, considering most trimmers around here are self taught to make a little money on the weekends. Total for 2 horses is 100$ every 5 weeks.
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Baseline business analysis is sometimes interesting.

A three hour round trip drive suggests 120 to 180 miles.

Expense per IRS vehicle usage deductable ($0.55/mile): $66 to $99.

Tool depreciation (trims only): $4.00 per horse; total $8.00

Business expense, excluding liability/health/retirement/education: $74 to $107.

Net earnings before business overhead and tax: Between $26 and -$7.00.

Time (labor/travel): 4 hours. ( presumes 1 hour on site)

Pre-tax, Pre-overhead net earnings:

Best case: $6.50/hr
Worst case: -$1.75hr

Likely average: $2.06 per hour

This business model may be more effective if the trimmer travels via bicycle.

Cheers,
Mark
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    06-04-2012, 12:31 PM
  #25
Green Broke
I pay $25 + travel expense. My farrier is fantastic and I would easily pay $35 if he asked it. He doesnt accept tips either.
     
    06-04-2012, 12:38 PM
  #26
Yearling
Now I feel like I am ripping her off, thanks Mark! All jokes aside, she usually spends around 2 hours at the barn, between me asking questions and her chatting. Using your model, she is really making nothing. How do farriers stay in business?
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    06-04-2012, 01:12 PM
  #27
Foal
Here in Alberta Canada, I pay 45 for a trim with a well trained educated farrier and if you want shoes it's 95 for fronts, can't think of all four right now but I think 150, that is fairly normal pricing for around here unless you need/want special shoeing, that being said a lady I board with pays 65 for trims because she has had the same farrier forever... Not sure why she pays so much when in my opinion he leaves the toes way to long but to each their own I guess

But 25 is a real deal and he was extremely kind to bump his price down due to the situation but I think maybe a tip or huge thank you (case of beer maybe, my farriers have always loved that when they do me a favor) is in order for the next time he is out.

If I had been in your situation with your friend I probably would of hung up on her as soon as she started b$@ching about the price, it's not yours OR the farriers fault she owns the number of horses she does and if she wants cheap prices she is welcome to go find them herself but to expect cheap work and have to be there to handle her own horses next time.

I know money can be a huge issue with people lately but if she asked you to do the handling/dealing with farrier she should of asked the prices and choose against the service before if money was the issue rather then flying off handle at you after the work was done, and seeing as she didn't it was/is her responibility to pay for the work done.

If it was me I probably wouldn't be doing her anymore favors but I understand you board with her so if she asks you to handle the horses during services wether it be farrier vet dental etc make sure you quote her the FULL price for ALL horses before the person even comes out, so in that case there is NO way she can flip out at you when the bill comes and if she does I recommend finding somewhere else to board, just my two cents
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    06-04-2012, 02:10 PM
  #28
Weanling
Thanks for the responses all. I know she is stressed because she's out of work... It's happened to a lot of folks lately, and I am sympathetic. But he didn't HAVE to give her that discount... he did so to be kind. I feel like he's a farrier worth keeping, personally... Even if she doesn't.

Based on what ya'll say, I have come to my sense and I don't think $35 is too much for a trim. Even if the roomie decides to try and find someone cheaper, I will be sticking with this guy.

And speedracer, you're right. I'm surprised he didn't tell her where to go right then and there. I might have, in his position.

EDIT: I just had a thought. Maybe I'll go out today and take photos of the trim, and you all can tell me if I'm getting a proper job done for the price...
     
    06-04-2012, 02:20 PM
  #29
Banned
I pay $80 for a trim and reset. $120 for new set of shoes and trim. I believe my farrier charges some of his other clients more than this - I've told him I will happily pay their price as I am happy with his work, but he won't allow me to - nor will he accept a tip from me.

I have friends who pay less for other farriers. That's up to them, I can see a difference in the quality of the work.
     
    06-04-2012, 02:51 PM
  #30
Green Broke
As soon as friend started clucking Ida said hold on, you talk to farrier and handed the farrier the phone. I bet she woulda shut up real quick. No way I woulda played middle man. Id also tell her to make her own farrier arrangements from now on.
     

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