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post #1 of 21 Old 02-15-2017, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Farnam Thrush Relief... anyone use it? Is it any good?

Looking at products to use on my horse's thrush. Found this but have no clue other than reviews on the site about how good it is. thought I would ask here for other folks experiences with it.

https://www.statelinetack.com/item/f...9108x195485628

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My opinion is to not fool around with the "small stuff". In Barney's case, none of it is going to be effective in clearing up to the thrush.

What will work if you can get your hands on some, is REAL purple gentian. It won't burn. But it is difficult to find. Do you have an old time apothecary or an ancient health food store.

I got some from the vet a few weeks back because I have been fighting deep sulci thrush on Joker for several months. I was afraid he had canker but he doesn't.

I have never seen anything work as fast as this stuff the vet gave me. Joker's central sulci started to dry up after one dabber was applied. I only use it twice a week. Today was the third application. I can't believe how fast the sulci is healing.

I have to wear a surgical glove as the stuff stains the skin until your next birthday.

It looks like pure purple gentian to me; I forgot to ask him. I know four ounces was $25.

I highly doubt the likes of WalMart or Walgreen has the pure purple gentian. If you can locate some, your frustrations should be over quickly. It's like the old aftershave commercial that said "a little dab will do ya"; a little dab on the frogs is literally all that's needed:)

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@walkinthewalk , got a brand name? I looked up "purple gentian" and all I found were links to treating thrush of the mouth for HUMANS.

The Farnam Thrush Relief has "Copper Naphthenate" as the active ingredient which is not "small stuff" by any means but this product seems to have a kind of petroleum base to make it "water resistant". So, I was looking for opinions of folks who have used it...good, bad, indifferent.

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Gentian Violet, if that is what you are talking about, is a common lab stain , used in Histology
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Doing more research... found this: "gentian-violet combination (Thrush Buster)". Seems that the gentian-violet is more of a colorant...

Also seeing recommendations for Copper Naphthenate on several sites...

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Doing more research... found this: "gentian-violet combination (Thrush Buster)". Seems that the gentian-violet is more of a colorant...

Also seeing recommendations for Copper Naphthenate on several sites...
Yes, that is correct --- more of a colorant. And that is because there might be a teeny weeny chance of getting cancer from too much contact, with pure purple gentian.

That is why I suggested trying to find the pure stuff in an old time apothecary or a hippie health food store. I don't have a name. The stuff I have is in a bottle with the vet's name on it - it was poured from another bottle.

I have been fighting this deep sulci thrush on Joker since last October. Cleaning him twice daily and putting ToMorrow in there twice daily. It wasn't working at all.

There was a white "nub" on one of the heel bulbs. I was really fearful about canker which IS a form of cancer, albeit rare.

With this Purple Gentian that I believe is pure, the sulci on both hooves is drying up at warp speed. I should only need to do a few more treatments.

Which would I rather worry about ----- the minuscule chance of Joker's heels developing cancer from pure purple gentian or the fact the deep sulci thrush has been there since last October and showed no signs of going away with twice daily treatment. No thought required on that one:)

It's like everything else that works but has been taken off the market. 10% iodine hasn't been on the OTC shelf for several years thanks to the meth cookers. Vet's can get it, but we Regular folks can't, we have to buy Triodyne which is only 7% iodine and has something in it to detract the meth cookers from buying it.
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I don't know about the stuff you linked to from Stateline.
I did go look to see what it is...
straight from their website..

Farnam® Thrush Relief
formerly know as Thrush-XX™ Thrush Treatment Aid

Never used it....

I have used Thrushbuster with great results.
I have a now rehabbed rescue that had deep, nasty thrush I struggled with when he first came into my care...
My farrier said Thrushbuster was what we needed...he was right.
Thrush was under control within 1 treatment and noticeable improvement by the second treatment.
Best was what I read was it did not kill the good tissue but wiped out the bacteria that created the thrush in the first place.
Worked in my situation.
Now when it is rainy season here I "pre-treat" as a preventative so I don't have a issue with any of my horses.
One drop is all it takes as a preventative and not much more as a "issue" stopper if a issue starts.
It does stain a nice shade of purple if you get it on anything ....horse or human.
My gray horse had purple heel bulbs and my shoes had a purple toe when I dropped the bottle from my hand... finally wore away and lesson learned.

Have you considered that you may need systemic antibiotics to help if the thrush is serious enough?
Ask the vet their opinion...

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Have you considered that you may need systemic antibiotics to help if the thrush is serious enough?
Ask the vet their opinion...

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jmo...
I'm currently following the directions of my farrier/equine podiatrist. This post is mostly for gathering opinions from folks who have used this stuff for future reference when Barney's active thrush is less intense.
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Last year I was dealing with the deep sulci thrush. I swear by Tomorrow and the powdered No Thrush plus the antiseptic hoof mud.

I clean with a child's tooth brush, since the head is smaller it is easier to get in tight places, let dry. Then I will switch between the Tomorrow and the No Thrush. Then I cover the area with the antiseptic mud, let him eat a flake of hay in his stall to let the mud set, then turn out.

Works like a charm. Also a three week trimming schedule helps too, until cleared.
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Hopefully the mats you put down for Barney will give him some relief as far as keeping his hooves dry so they can heal.

It may end up that just about any of the products in the horse catalogues will work for maintenance, once you get to that point.

Howeverrrrrr, don't be surprised if something stops working and you have to switch to something else, lollollol

Sometimes I just stare those hooves and wonder what's in store for me tomorrow

It's great you have an equine podiatrist for Barney; hopefully the farrier isn't so up in himself that he won't do what the podiatrist says to do.

That happened to Joker when he first foundered. The house vet is a sports medicine vet. He told that farrier exactly how to trim Joker. Trim #3 the farrier didn't listen and the result was torn ligaments on both front legs.

Joker's been to Hades and back twice and I've got enough money in him to buy an upper level dressage horse. This deep sulci thrush not clearing up has been a frustrating burr under my saddle. My hope is when it's cleared up, that will be the end of it but I'm keeping that bottle of purple stuff tucked away in a house closet just in case:)

@sarahfromsc do you have a link for the antiseptic mud? I meant to ask you when you first mentioned it but forgot. One can never have too much stuff in the ole hoof arsenal, lollol
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