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post #1 of 55 Old 03-23-2014, 03:03 PM Thread Starter
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Farrier took a chunk out of hoof wall

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So I had my farrier out last weekend and he ended up digging out what I thought was a really big chunk of the hoof wall. My mare has had a small crack in the white line that refused to heal/grow out for a couple months now. She had the same thing on the other front foot, but with regular cleaning it closed and grew out fine.
The last time I had my farrier out she had come up a little bit lame and we discussed various possibilities, but basically came to the conclusion that it was probably an abscess or bruise and would sort itself out (ie: bruise would take time to heal and an abscess would eventually rupture or he could dig it out). After that trim she has not been noticeably lame, trots out fine and riptears around her pasture quite happily.
But this crack won't close.
So he ended up cutting it right back up to where it had obviously abscessed a bit and must have just kept reinfecting itself. Apparently he has to do this on a lot of horses, mainly on the toes, and other than being aesthetically unappealing, doesn't seem to bother them.
My mare was falling asleep on him as he was digging this out so obviously its not too tender.
I spent a week soaking it everyday to clean it out and it seems to be healing nicely. Thankfully we finally seem to be headed into some dryer weather so I'm hoping her feet will start hardening up.

Just curious as to where the interior hoof starts getting more sensitive?
(The red is NOT blood, it's the antiseptic he squirted on after)
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Oh boy that foots looking alittle rough...

I have seen this done quite a bit actually where farriers dig out a lot of the hoof if there is a crack or thrush or something amazes me they don't get tender!!!

I would definitely think and look into some hoof supplements.. smartpak.com has alot of great choices for every part of a horse!!! it will help harden and make the hoof over all more healthy!!!
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I've been doing a little bit of nutrition research and am planning on doing a a hay/pasture analysis to see if there is anything missing. She is currently on a little bit of feed (Hoffmans horse ration), but really only a handful a day just so she gets a onceover daily by my barn manager.
My farrier actually thinks her feet are really good otherwise, its just with how wet the climate is, once something gets in it is very hard to eradicate.
But yes, feeding for the hoof is an excellent recommendation, thankyou! I definitely believe that like peoples nails and hair, the feet (and coat) are a good indicator of diet/health.
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My theory is without a hoof a horse is nothing. Hooves get neglected more then people realize with her only getting hay and pasture with very little feed she might be lacking in some things I would get them analyzed definitely so you know!
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Where it is sensitive/bleeding depends a bit on where the tissues are in the horse. Which I am sure seems like an odd thing to say, so let me explain.

In a horse that has foundered (but not perforated or come through the sole), the tip of the coffin bone, with it's sensitive tissue and blood supply will be about an inch forward of the tip of the frog and milimeters from the ground as the horse is standing. In a different, non-foundered horse with a good thick sole, that same tip of the coffin bone might be two centimeters off the ground and well protected, but in other flat-footed horses it's somewhere in between. In a horse with chronic white line separation at the toe, the tip of the coffin bone might actually have dissolved from chronic pressure, so what's left is further back (towards the heel) than you would expect.

If there is a chronic issue, the foot will try to protect the area by growing more tissue and laying it down as armor, so the actual sensitive tissues may be deeper/farther back than you would normally expect compared to a healthy foot.
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This looks like there was a case of whiteline disease going on under the hoof wall. and the farrier did the right thing to open it up. Whiteline disease is a fungal infection that will not heal unless opened up to the air. The resected area is not a in a weight bearing area of the foot and should not be a problem as it grows back down. and should be no problem in itself. The tissues underneath will quickly harden up.
BUT a bigger issue is that obviously horrible trim! (not the resected area, the whole foot) The heels look like they are WAAY too long and badly run under the foot, and thew toe is badly flared both should have been taken care of in the trim. The distortion on the heels likely contributed directly to the crack in the first place. A photo of the sole of the foot would be very revealing.....
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I have no experience or knowledge on resectioning, so I didn't even bother to look at that part of the hoof, but the trim! :( I agree with Patty - the trim is awful
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Originally Posted by prettypony View Post
Storytime :)
Just curious as to where the interior hoof starts getting more sensitive?
First you have the Stratum Externum of the hoof wall, which is what you see when you look at the outside of a hoof. Beneath that, there is the Stratum Medium and the Stratum Internum. These three structures make up the hoof total thickness of the hoof wall - you can sometimes see these from the underside of a foot with a fresh trim, depending on how much the farrier dressed the foot. Next is the White Line, where nails are driven - this also can be seen between the hoof wall and sole from the underside of the foot. After all of that, the sensitive structures such as the laminae, frog & sole coruims (cell producing layers), digital cushion, collateral cartilages, coffin and navicular bone, tendons, etc are in there.
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Give it a try:
The sesitive area would be in the secondary lamellea.
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Yep, if there is 'seedy toe/WLD' cracks, no matter how minor & how well trimmed the hoof, don't tend to grow out & may get worse. Seedy can be insidious & look like nothing on the surface but may be deep & severe once you start digging. So it can be virtually impossible to treat the infection effectively without resecting.

But I agree with Patty & co that it appears bad mechanics/trimming is also a huge issue here. Is this a new farrier for your horse? Is it a new horse who has had terrible feet?
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