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        05-24-2013, 03:37 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    I've not seen one good farrier anywhere around me..ever.
    C is pretty good, I don't like how he leaves the sole level with the wall and it won't work for my mare. But aside from that his work is nice. $45 is too much though if I still have to go back and take sole out though.
    T is plain horrid, and I wish my old BO would switch to someone else. He turns out horses with looooong toes and horribly underrun heels.
    Current BO's farrier does an okay job, but she cranks the horse's legs out MUCH too far (and wonders why they don't behave for her when they usually do).
    L just has the worst attitude..If they horse is young, she'll make sure to take extra long so she can say she won't do the horse because it fidgets. She won't get lower for horses with arthritis that need it. She won't come back out for a horse that throws a shoe (even the next day).
    S (who WAS my farrier) did an AWESOME job the first time..and last time was his strike out. He went from an almost perfect trim to a hack job with no balance, left flares, barely touched the sole (still had dead sole in there!), and was an ass to my mare. I told him to let her pick up her foot and not try to yank it because she'll kick like she did the first time..tried to yank every one of her feet up, didn't even give her a second to recognize he was asking. I didn't correct her nor did I apologize to him. I was going to give him a tip for coming out on such short notice, but left it without the tip. Don't raise your price and do a sh!t job, especially when you're young and need business and know I can do it myself.

    Soo..I'm done using farriers. My mare has been lame from his hack job for the past two weeks, and Ill have to wait until the bruise he caused grows out to do much else.
    If she needs shod (which she doesn't with a good trim the way I ask for it) now, Ill be doing the glue ons myself until she can be barefoot again. Never again will I spend $40 to waste $180 in board on a lame horse again. Ever.
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        05-24-2013, 03:56 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    Nancy, you were RIGHT to rant!! **hugs**
    Keep looking for a good farrier who is reliable. I had 5 farriers quit on me over the years, since 1985--wasn't me bc most of them ended up with bad backs--and after I had an appointment with this awesome, "wait for an appointment for 6 months" Amish farrier, super good and FAST!!!, I had my taste buds set. My current farrier of the last 7 years is an Amish guy with a young family. I figured that he'd quit when he died, which wasn't going to happen soon. He has a set of stocks for unreasonable horses and doesn't let himself get hurt with spoiled pets, like my VET did!
    Are there any Amish communities anywhere near you in KY? Mine is one hour's trailer ride away. He has a small community of clients near me, so he pays a driver to take him around and comes to my house and theirs during the winter, so mine get trimmed in my barn.
    BTW, trim at his place--$16.00/horse
    Full shoeing, no specialty shoeing--$40.00
    Trim when he's driven--$35.00
    Hasn't knicked or sored anyone, and he explains what and why as he works.
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        05-24-2013, 05:58 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    Bold, even tho your farrier has retired, he may be glad to supervise while you trim your horses. They do like to be appreciated.
    I wish this were the case. He retired because his other business (a machine shop) takes all of his time. He and my FIL hunt together and he didn't even put in for any hunts this year. That's unheard of for this guy. Maybe in the winter he'll have a little time...

    Funny Saddlebag brought up checking into the education the farrier has had. I called the school that this guy said he went to. The person I talked to said he attended all right. Up until the instructors told him to curb the attitude and he dropped out! They remembered him pretty well. Thought he knew it all. Turns out he knows very little. The school was pretty upset he was going around saying he went to their school then was putting out this kind of work. They asked that I email them pictures. Makes me wonder if they were going to contact this guy and tell him to quit running their name through the mud...
         
        05-24-2013, 07:53 PM
      #24
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    Originally Posted by Corporal    
    Nancy, you were RIGHT to rant!! **hugs**
    Keep looking for a good farrier who is reliable. I had 5 farriers quit on me over the years, since 1985--wasn't me bc most of them ended up with bad backs--and after I had an appointment with this awesome, "wait for an appointment for 6 months" Amish farrier, super good and FAST!!!, I had my taste buds set. My current farrier of the last 7 years is an Amish guy with a young family. I figured that he'd quit when he died, which wasn't going to happen soon. He has a set of stocks for unreasonable horses and doesn't let himself get hurt with spoiled pets, like my VET did!
    Are there any Amish communities anywhere near you in KY? Mine is one hour's trailer ride away. He has a small community of clients near me, so he pays a driver to take him around and comes to my house and theirs during the winter, so mine get trimmed in my barn.
    BTW, trim at his place--$16.00/horse
    Full shoeing, no specialty shoeing--$40.00
    Trim when he's driven--$35.00
    Hasn't knicked or sored anyone, and he explains what and why as he works.
    The Amish are a ways away, and the Mennonites are too far, too. But OY, I have a Morgan gelding from the Mennonites, (I will post his own thread when he gets back to normal) who had(NOT exaggerating) 6" of toe, and 4" of heel, only 2 1/2 " wide feet. Plus, I have to drive OUT there to get an appointment.

    I really like the new guy, hope he sticks around.

    He does the horses kneeling down, with their foot resting on his leg, instead of cranking them up between his knees, and they loved this!!!

    Nancy
         
        05-24-2013, 08:05 PM
      #25
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    this makes me thankful for my farrier, who is amazing.
    I agree with you.

    You really need to know what to look for when caring for your horses. It comes to show once more that someone who calls themselves an "expert" in their field can really mean absolutely nothing. As a horse owner its your responsibility to keep an eye on your horse's feet and learn what is proper hoof care and what is not. This will help prevent any issues that may come up.
         
        05-24-2013, 08:13 PM
      #26
    Foal
    I hate to throw other farriers under the bus as they are ordinary humans and none of us are perfect, but I am often apalled at the lack of professionalism, common curtesy and empathy that is described to me about some other farriers/trimmers. Sympathies to those who are having problems finding a competant, courteous farrier/trimmer who will least attempt to communicate with their clients.
         
        05-25-2013, 07:13 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lexiie    
    I totally feel you. My BO prefers one farrier, and thinks he's the best in the world. I really don't care for his work at all. It was really frustrating, at first when she wasn't mine, to have her feet in not so awesome shape. Even when I would point out what I didn't like about her feet, he wouldn't do anything differently.

    Even now, I can tell that it really ticks off my BO when I use a different farrier. I feel bad upsetting her, she's a wonderful person and I've known her my whole life, but I have to do what's best for my horse.
    If she's really a wonderful person, she will understand . I have a bit of a situation as well. Right now, again, I'm using the barn farrier. He insists on making the inside walls higher. I even got xrays and vet advice, and he still does it. Now I'll be talking to another woman's farrier on Wednesday, and nobody here is going to like it. I don't think any of them can accept the fact that I know more than they do. I'm really tired of having to correct his trim the next day all the time.

    I know the thoughts that these farriers have when you want something slightly different. They smile that smile that says "and another one who think she knows what she's talking about".

    Have faith in yourself. Tell your friend that you and the ex farrier have a difference of opinion. Do for your horse. Really, if she's a nice person, your relationship will be more valuable to her than what farrier you're using.
         
        05-25-2013, 07:18 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BoldComic    
    Nothing better than an awesome farrier. Nothing worse than a terrible one. The big problem is you don't know which one someone is until you give them a try. It's the same with hairdressers, dog groomers, etc.

    I am in the process of trimming my own (with a lot of help from HF people) because I was spoiled rotten by a wonderful farrier who retired. Now I can't find anyone to replace him. So I've decided to go the barefoot way and boot if I have to. This way I am the only one to blame if there is a problem.
    I was spoiled too by a wonderful farrier who I had for 19 years. Now, down here in florida, I just can't seem to find someone who will just give my horse a normal trim, and not try to fix anything like toeing out.
         
        05-26-2013, 10:34 AM
      #29
    Foal
    You have every right to complain about your farrier... I had one that was a barefoot farrier he was good, BUT the second time he came out my horse was a little nervous about his back legs that day so I went to get a little grain and when I went into the barn and came back out he was all out whipping/beating my horse with be lead rope. I never called him back!!
         

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