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post #11 of 54 Old 03-02-2014, 04:02 PM
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Casting can be a lifesaver for horses like this.
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post #12 of 54 Old 03-02-2014, 07:11 PM Thread Starter
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Alrighty, day 2 - took her heels down more, reapplied no thrush. She is just a cruisin' now. Sorry I have a stupid voice and we were very excited.

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So glad she's on the up-swing! You're taking excellent care of her :)
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I think the best thing for the horse would be to get a vet and xrays, and let the vet show you wants done. Then think about who can provide hoof care whether it be you, another trimmer, or a farrier. I like Trinity's suggestion of casting if the vet thinks it will help.
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I think the best thing for the horse would be to get a vet and xrays, and let the vet show you wants done. Then think about who can provide hoof care whether it be you, another trimmer, or a farrier. I like Trinity's suggestion of casting if the vet thinks it will help.

Not my horse, not my call. All I'm going to be doing is trimming/bandaging/treating. Which is going not too shabby. But, and I could absolutely be wrong, whatever degree of rotation this horse has, the treatment would be pretty much the same. If this has to be done on a budget, we'll still do the best job we can.
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post #16 of 54 Old 03-02-2014, 09:12 PM
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IMO (uneducated) it would be dangerous to trim without xrays.

I will say if you need to pad her to trim her feet do it. Just find something soft for her to balance that foot with the extra weight on.

Is she on bute?

Definitely wouldn't call that cruising but she seems eager enough to walk. Still tender. My boy is much like that sometimes (no founder, does have laminitis issues)

Can you call and talk to a vet? Her feet are important but if you cant get xrays then that's that (and I can't give any good advice specific to feet) but I think it's as important to figure out the cause and management for her condition. For my horse with laminitis we give bute as needed (luckily it isn't needed super often anymore!) at our vet's advise. Not only for pain but to minimize inflammation. I would definitely talk to a vet even if you can't have one out.

This mare looks pretty overweight. Get that under control asap and look into any additional causes of the founder.
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We're hoping the reason she's fat is because she usually just stands in the corner of the pasture... doing nothing. I've boarded my horse at this place for 3 years and this horse is always doing just that. Nothing. Sometimes eating.

The cause of her founder is insane over grown feet - HIGH heels, bars layed over half the sole (assuming impacted), white line stetched out till tuesday. We never saw anyone do anything with this horse, then last week, the original owner passed away and a different boarder bought the horse. Last winter I just called her "founder pony" because no one knew it's name. Many of the horses in the pasture have similar looking feet - the farrier comes every... 8 weeks I think. Not often enough, and not enough is trimmed away. Shoeing was recommended, but we're going the barefoot route.
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I was so excited to see her walking around like that, obviously uncomfortable but it is good movement. I haven't worked on many horses that have foundered like this my self and mostly minis but I think the barefoot route is the best route also.

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]Not my horse[/B], not my call. All I'm going to be doing is trimming/bandaging/treating. Which is going not too shabby. But, and I could absolutely be wrong, whatever degree of rotation this horse has, the treatment would be pretty much the same. If this has to be done on a budget, we'll still do the best job we can.
Exactly!!
Since I never got an answer I can assume you are not a certified farreir which means you should not be messing with other peoples horses feet....particularly one that is sick!!
You and your friend may have invalidated any medical/life insurance if there was any on the horse.
You may have also set yourself up for a liability law suit!
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Amigo, I don't get your 'exactly!', but Kero, yes, I agree that it is *essentially* the same treatment, but specifics can indeed matter, which is why we're all advising you talk your friend into getting rads if at all possible.

I think Amigo, you can safely assume there's no valid life insurance issue, and I had the idea it is indeed Kero's friend's horse(?) So, Kero, for the sake of legal safety, I'd probably get my friend to sign something saying she is happy for you to trim, knowing you're not a professional. And by all means, if your friend can find/afford a good lameness expert, I would absolutely advise that, but Amigo, many people just don't have those choices.
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