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    11-26-2011, 03:08 PM

The white line gets stretched, is there discomfort even with regular hoof care?
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    11-26-2011, 08:03 PM
Possibly. I would say it would depend on the regular hoof care.. and the horse.
    11-26-2011, 08:50 PM
My question would be...if the horse is getting good quality hoof care on a set schedule, why does he have flares at all?
    11-26-2011, 09:03 PM
I have a mare who is prone to flaring as well as underrun heels. She is also flat footed.. She should be trimmed more often than she is but then I'd be broke. Or my back would be. ;) I would assume, if quality care is not in question, that they are working on the flaring. Make sense? Of course that's me assuming. Sooooooo, how is this horse being trimmed is what should be asked.
    11-26-2011, 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by goneriding    
The white line gets stretched, is there discomfort even with regular hoof care?
That's too vague for me. I can say that the hoof changes shape due to how it bears weight. If the flares just on one side of the hoof? If so it's usually from the foot being unlevel.
    11-27-2011, 07:15 AM
I have a mare that toes out on her front right. She is a little under run too. My horses get trimmed every 7 weeks.
    11-27-2011, 08:39 AM
My old guy had flares for years-even trimmed regularly, and it was due to a conenital deformity at birth-he came to me that way at 4 yrs old. WE minimized them, but because his rear left was rotated slightly, we did not want to change his actual structure. When I sent him to be a treapeutic horse a year ago, in their infinite brilliance, they removed the flares (he is now 22), resulting in increased rotation, and he is now much more arthritis than previously.
    11-27-2011, 02:04 PM
Casey's hooves start flaring out about 4 weeks after a trim, she has pigeon toes so she wears her hooves unevenly. She wears her toe down really well, but she gets flares on the side of her hoof, and since I was tired of having the farrier only coming out to file down the flares I got a hoof file, and so I do a mustang roll weekly on her hooves to prevent flaring, and also helps her her hooves from chipping.
    11-29-2011, 02:57 AM
Flares are like bending your fingernail backwards and walking on it. Flares hurt tremendously, if they are engaged with the ground.
Keep the bevel maintained or the torque is back on, along with the pull of the old pathology.
When the flare is disengaged from the ground with the bevel, the jamming up on the wall from the ground stops and since there is no more upward pressure, the flare relaxes and comes sliding down the wall, even wanting to puddle at the ground, so it seems worse, before it gets better...all part of growing out. It will settle down. So good go, Casey. Brave enough to maintain that bevel and with active flare, tweaking every week is perfect for staying on top of the trim between farrier visits!

Removing flares will not cause rotation, but he should have been booted to transition that foot properly. Could have been something else done to the hoof in the process, like over-trimming, trimming before the ducks got in order, not protecting, leaving excess bars, thinning the sole, thrush, long breakover..... but not flares.
With boots/padding, the magic is in the pad itself. Everytime he steps on that pad, it gives in, then bottom's out and gives back...saying to the bone...get back up there where you belong...with every step. Flat footedness will improve greatly in 4 months with pads. It's the lack of bone protection from the ground that feeds the arthritis now. If he's lame now, booting him will make him a changed horse instantly with the comfort. Hope this helps.

With the right protocol, underrun heels can be fixed also. They can bloom into negative palmer angles that are very hard on the DDFT, right where it runs past the navicular bone. Looking at underrun heels for long time is not necessary and won't linger if the proper trim/movement is promoting. Booting here also helps...extra padding at the heel when he needs it. Put the frog to work and strengthen it so it can support the heels and help that heel first landing. The heels and frog are best buds. So go after thrush, nothing can build when its being eaten away.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come in on everybody...just want to help, maybe give some food for thought.
    11-29-2011, 07:51 AM
Thanks. THis guy remains slightly off, due to the arthritis on his hocks. His rear foot remains rotated further than prior to the flare trim, which, BTW, was now a year ago. As he is retired and has never ever had shoes, I am not going to start now. He is, as far as I am concerned, pasture sound, which is fine. His flares are slight, and, like I said-he has always been that way. My feeling is that NO change that drastic after 20+ yrs is appropriate. That was the issue I had with the farrier who removed his flares. This is a horse who never took a lame step until the arthritis a couple of years ago, so obviously we did something right prior to that.

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