Going to start trimming on my own - advice and opinions please

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        09-21-2013, 02:08 AM
    Going to start trimming on my own - advice and opinions please

    Quest just got his feet done this past Monday (9-16) afternoon. The pictures are 3 days later (Thursday). The trim was exactly 3 weeks and 6 days after the last trim. He's on a 4-week schedule. I'm going to start trimming him myself - at least this time before the farrier comes out again next month. To me, he has a couple of tricky feet and I want to make sure that trimming myself is the best thing to do for him.

    I'm going to put what I see with each foot. Please feel free to add or correct me if I'm wrong.

    Left front:
    I see the overall odd shape of the sole of the hoof m/l, virtually no concavity in the sole, narrow and elongated frog, a little flaring in the front (possibly stretched forward toe), inside grows almost straight vertically, outside looks to grow normally. This is the hoof that gave the farrier the cause to suggest to put shoes on the fronts because of the weird growing pattern.

    Right front:

    I see mild club, narrow and elongated frog, virtually no concavity in the sole, flared (stretched forward?) toe, almost vertical sidewall growth

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        09-21-2013, 02:08 AM
    Right rear:

    I see narrow and elongated frog, slightly underrun heel, maybe a little bullnosed (?), better concavity than the fronts

    Left rear:

    I see narrow and elongated frog, better concavity than the fronts, slightly underrun heels,

    (I didn't realize the picture was blurry until I uploaded it tonight, sorry)

    Last but not least is my first attempt at mapping. I used a PDF online as a reference. BTW, what does everyone use for drawing on the pictures?

        09-21-2013, 04:53 AM
    Green Broke
    His feet aren't too bad. I would indeed be most worried about his LF. The thin sole you're seeing on all his feet are due to a stretched forward toe thinning out the sole. If you back that toe up(which you did a great job mapping) it'll help him to build some sole and natural concavity. Do NOT carve concavity into his feet, in case you don't already know. It'll come with time and correct trimming.

    As for the weird growing patterns, it may just be his conformation. Have you ever taken a real good hard look at his legs/feet? I know my yearling wears down his inside heels shorter than his outside because he toes out in the hinds. I still balance his heels the same and he'll wear them down the way he wants to. His RF looks to be the slightest bit clubby as his growth is a bit more vertical than his LF but it is very, very mild.

    Also, take a look at the hairlines. They should be a straight line. See how on his LF(most noticeable) it's pushed up at the quarters? That means there's excess hoof wall at the quarters and it's jamming up.

    One thing I see you didn't mention is that he's got contracted heels all around. That's very common with stretched toes and underrun heels. The bullnosing(laminae pulling away from the hoof wall) is also common with underrun heels and can indicate a negative PA for the coffin bone. If you back that toe up and get his heels up under him, you'll find that his feet will "open up" and expand.

    Another thing you can do to help give you an idea of where his feet should be is to draw a vertical line following his new hoof growth, then mimicking that on his heels. It'll show you how much excess toe you've got. You want to get that toe back up ASAP so the flare does not cause the new growth to pull away from the coffin bone. You also want to get those heels up under him which shouldn't be that difficult to do.

    I attached a couple drawings of what I thiiiink his feet should look like(I'm new at drawing on pics so take this with a grain of salt) but I did both the LF and the RF. And take everything I've typed as a grain of salt. It's 3 AM and I'm on pain meds. Not a good combination.
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        09-21-2013, 06:05 AM
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    Originally Posted by Kayella    

    I attached a couple drawings of what I thiiiink his feet should look like(I'm new at drawing on pics so take this with a grain of salt) but I did both the LF and the RF. And take everything I've typed as a grain of salt. It's 3 AM and I'm on pain meds. Not a good combination.

    I think drawing on photos is tricky as the photos may not have been taken from the angle you think they are and are often deceiving.

    Personally , I wouldn't worry too much and get your horse out working so he can shape the hooves he needs (which are not always tidy and symmetrical as horses have to balance limbs that may not be symmetrical or work evenly).
        09-21-2013, 09:46 AM
    I answered this in another forum.
        09-21-2013, 09:55 AM
    Green Broke
    I want to compliment you on your hoof photos! Very nice. I don't think you will have any problem doing his feet yourslf.

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        09-22-2013, 07:48 AM
    Agree Clava, that drawing on pics can only give a rough idea & may not be accurate. But I still think it's helpful. Same for heel balance. It appears that the first hoof pictured has imbalanced heels, but I suspect that the horse needs this, & the pic is on angle, so won't advise there. Toes are definitely quite stretched, esp fronts & need bevelling strongly all round.
        09-23-2013, 06:23 PM
    The L/F heels are uneven. The R/F looks a bit clubby or maybe "high". All the feet need an angle boost. I think the best you can do right now is every week or so go out and rasp the toe back . Then go underneath and find live sole in the toe of the hoof. Rasp toe hoof walls almost down the live sole, and give the heels a brush with the rasp. Sides-just rasp a tiny bit on the outsides of both hooves, and make sure underneath they are following the angle. You really can't do more than mother nature is giving you. But with this weekly going over, you'll certainly speed things up.
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