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        05-19-2014, 01:49 AM
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    Heel first landing

    I am wondering, even though my percheron is still sore with her soles, she is walking heel first.....so does that mean, at least her heels are becoming stronger? Is that a good sign, or does it really mean nothing? She wasn't walking heel first before this journey.
         
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        05-19-2014, 05:10 AM
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    Green Broke
    I'm not an expert, but I would take it as a good sign.
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        05-19-2014, 06:59 AM
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    Weanling
    A SLIGHT heel first landing is normal and desireable.You should barely be able to see a little "air" under the toe at the last second of the landing if You are standing in front of the horse as she is walked freely toward you.

    However if she is 'slapping' the heels down hard, it is usually a sign that either the horse is protecting the sore toes, or the heels are too tall.
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        05-19-2014, 10:58 AM
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    A SLIGHT heel first landing is normal and desireable.You should barely be able to see a little "air" under the toe at the last second of the landing if You are standing in front of the horse as she is walked freely toward you.

    However if she is 'slapping' the heels down hard, it is usually a sign that either the horse is protecting the sore toes, or the heels are too tall.
    I can't say that I see her slapping the ground. The toe does kind of bounce up off the ground? I have her wall back pretty close to the white line, but when you do the 'mapping', it should still come back more. Does this mean I should leave it alone and bring it back slowly every couple of weeks maybe?
         
        05-19-2014, 11:08 AM
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    Wow, just read this.....

    The Myth of the Heel-First Landing – Part 2 — Enlightened Equine

    So, heel first, is not necessarily a goal.....
         
        05-19-2014, 04:49 PM
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    Weanling
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    can't say that I see her slapping the ground. The toe does kind of bounce up off the ground? I have her wall back pretty close to the white line, but when you do the 'mapping', it should still come back more. Does this mean I should leave it alone and bring it back slowly every couple of weeks maybe?
    The ELPO mapping is not intended for bringing the toe back to the breakover line from the front (from the hoof wall side) It is intended to map the correct anatomical place to put a ROLL or slight bevel across the bottom of the toe to allow an efficient breakover., don't 'mix and match' trim guidelines. With the exception of dressing flares off, taking the toe back from the front has no place in the ELPO guidelines. Please review the videos from Gene Ovnicek in the ELPO website on trimming and rasp the breakover at the toe the way he shows, if you are going to follow the ELPO mapping. BUT if you already took the hoof wall away too much where the breakover line mets the wall (the "pillars or toe corners) you may have to wait to rasp in the beak over bevel till you have some wall there. Otherwise you will make the horse sore.
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        05-19-2014, 10:04 PM
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    IThe ELPO mapping is not intended for bringing the toe back to the breakover line from the front (from the hoof wall side) It is intended to map the correct anatomical place to put a ROLL or slight bevel across the bottom of the toe to allow an efficient breakover., don't 'mix and match' trim guidelines. With the exception of dressing flares off, taking the toe back from the front has no place in the ELPO guidelines. Please review the videos from Gene Ovnicek in the ELPO website on trimming and rasp the breakover at the toe the way he shows, if you are going to follow the ELPO mapping. BUT if you already took the hoof wall away too much where the breakover line mets the wall (the "pillars or toe corners) you may have to wait to rasp in the beak over bevel till you have some wall there. Otherwise you will make the horse sore.

    Oh no.....maybe that is what happend??? Well, I guess I need time then....

    Too late, already brought the toe back today. Here is a picture. I also have a video of her walking so you an see her soreness.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqt0k5-rPg
         
        05-19-2014, 10:12 PM
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    So, where do I go from here? Just let toe grow out and then only bevel at 45* when it does? Thanks for the help. My poor mare.
         
        05-20-2014, 03:10 AM
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    Trained
    How to encourage a horse to build strong heels? Give him laminitis! (Very much tongue in cheek!) I'd say from that last pic, you're far & away from worrying about having 'backed up' too far
         
        05-20-2014, 03:15 AM
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    They do look over trimmed, I would leave them alone and when sound work her to encourage self trimming so the horse can grow the hoof it actually needs.
         

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