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    06-03-2012, 06:47 PM
hello, this mare's hooves needs advice

Hello everybody, I'm new in here.

This is Veronica 3.5 years old thoroughbred mare
Barefoot all her life, on a very harsh desert terrain.

The reason I had to trim her myself is cause there is
No farrier available in our area

I'm no trimmer by any means and my knowledge
Is only from the net
(good eye and hands for angles as a former Pool instructor)

I hope I'll manage to put the pics OK

Thanks for whom can contribute from his/her experience

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    06-03-2012, 11:01 PM
Your environment is nearly ideal for keeping a horse. Presuming the hoof wear does not exceed growth, maintenance will be relatively minor.

Working on desert hardened feet is tough and requires sharp tools; particularly the hoof knife.

Per your photos, I'd put emphasis/priority on.....

1. Try to keep the commissures more open to air at each side of the frog. Run a sharp knife from the apex of the frog to the rear of the commissure, shaving just the hardened surface of the frog at a slight angle. The result should allow you to easily pass a hoof pick completely through the each cleft.

2. Heavy terrain abrasion will care for most of the distal wall requirements. Run a rasp around the edge just enough to clean up minor chip damage. If you spend more than 30 seconds doing that, it's too much.

3. Thoroughbreds are more prone to distortion at the quarters of the hoof wall. Occasionally dress the walls in an effort to keep a straight line from hairline to ground. Don't be so aggressive as to compromise wall thickness but don't allow quarter flares to become excessive. It's a balance that requires experience. Use the wall thickness at the heel quarters to guide your judgement.

4. There is a lot of unexfoliated, keratinized solar tissue packed into the foot, particularly the back half of the foot. The bar depth better defines this. Without more experience, I'm very reluctant to advise that you try to do anything about this. Your current rasp work will take care of most of that need. Consider this an information point only.

All three of these recommendations should be viewed in the context of minor, non-aggressive changes. In the desert, less is more.

    06-04-2012, 04:01 AM
Thank you very much Mark

I'll try to follow your pointers,
And submit the new pics.

Thank you

    06-04-2012, 11:47 AM
here are the pics after I "fixed" it

Just rasped a little, so the wall thickness will be clearer
Done the "slopes" on the frog and commissures.

Id like you please to elaborate on the bars depth regarding the unexfoliated sole as you described on point num 4 in your reply


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    06-04-2012, 10:38 PM

While you can't tell balance from those angles, her feet look pretty good, as you'd hope considering her environment. In the first pics, seems there is nothing to trim from the ground surface at toe & very little if any from the heels, except perhaps the inside heels of the rears, but that the quarters could perhaps afford to be 'scooped' a bit, especially the inside rear quarters. The bars are all long - I treat them like the rest of the walls, which if level with sole plane, so are the bars. I would remove the daggy or overhanging bits of frog, but as little as possible, to leave as much calloused material as possible. With any luck, in your dry environment, you shouldn't have much issue with thrush either. I would bevel the outer rim of the ground surface wall into a 'mustang roll'.

In the second set of pics, looks like you've done reasonably well. I've included one of your pics with a line around the outside to demonstrate approx where I'd bevel from. This pic is a good example of as far as I'd go rasping the ground surface - I generally wouldn't rasp into the sole at all, but if I went that far, I'd definitely stop there & avoid getting into live sole. In contrast, you've gone a lot further on the hind feet. I also wouldn't have pared the frogs to such an extent, unless they were thrushy.
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    06-04-2012, 10:41 PM
Oh nearly forgot to mention, great to see that sort of 'typical TB feet'!!
    06-04-2012, 11:08 PM
No comment on further trimming instruction. Just wanted to say Good Job and welcome.
    06-05-2012, 03:22 AM
Originally Posted by desert country    
just rasped a little, so the wall thickness will be clearer
Done the "slopes" on the frog and commissures.
You did fine. Round up the sharp edges to reduce distal wall damage and you're good to go.

Id like you please to elaborate on the bars depth regarding the unexfoliated sole as you described on point num 4 in your reply


Here are the new pics
Point number 4 was informational only; not a recommendation. As I suggested earlier, your rasp work would take care of most of the problem. It did. Just keep doing what you're doing.

Here's another tidbit of information.

Your horse is base narrow in the hinds and toes out slightly in the fores. The fronts are a result of a mild fetlock valgus conformational defect. It's worse on the right side.

The base narrow conformation is asymmetric and is causing a medial/lateral imbalance in the hind feet. Load force is driving the right lateral heel forward. The opposite effect happens on the left hind. The right is worse than the left.

Not much you can do about that with just a trim. Shoes can be forged to help manage (not correct) the results of the imbalance.

Don't lose any sleep over it. I haven't seen a perfect horse since Secretariat.

    06-05-2012, 11:49 AM
Secretariat wasn't perfect...........

His heart was too big. :)~
    06-05-2012, 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by MPLdyCop    
Secretariat wasn't perfect...........

His heart was too big. :)~
Can't argue that Kim. I had never seen one as nice before him and never have since. Doubt I ever will.

Uh-oh... just dated myself, didn't I?

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