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  • Selling a horse with laminitis
  • Can a horse trainer be sued for laminitis

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    11-08-2012, 01:29 PM
Who would you donate him to? Most places that take donations wont want a horse who needs managed care.

You could try to sell him but you'd be obligated to disclose his problems.
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    11-08-2012, 01:30 PM
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No, I don't think you should be refunded.

If it was a car, or a blender, you could go complain and get your money back. This is a living thing, that can get sick, which is out of any ones control.

I bought a mare last year that was sound and healthy .Within a week she had an abscess, swollen back leg and scraped all the skin off her back. I got her healthy again and she was an awesome

Work with what you have.
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    11-08-2012, 01:31 PM
If the horse is chronically laminitic, there should be outward signs of it on his hooves. If it's a one time flare up from the stress, then no, there wouldn't be any indication of it. That's why I'm curious as to how your vet could determine he's chronic, but not have any other indications. They're pretty obvious.

Horses get sick, and it's never convenient for the humans. Would you have been happier if you'd had him 6 months and then he developed laminitis?

I have a horse I got who was fine the first year I had him. After that point, he bucked me off and I got hurt pretty badly. Come to find out, he has arthritic hocks and other physical disabilities that make it uncomfortable for him to be ridden. He was retired, and has been languishing in my pasture the last 7 years. Should I have been angry that I only had the use of him for a year? I figured it was just the luck of the draw, and it's not his fault.

I think you need to try and look at it that way, instead of being angry that it's 'unacceptable'. They're living, breathing creatures and things can and do go wrong. Besides, laminitis isn't a death sentence, and the horse isn't useless. All he needs is proper care and he'll come back to soundness.

If you want guarantees, don't buy living creatures. Also, don't try to pawn your responsibilities off onto someone else. He's not an inanimate object, and while he may be physically compromised at the moment, he's not 'broken'.
    11-08-2012, 01:33 PM
Chill out Poppy. I am angry. I bought a sound a healthy horse from a high end breeder and trainer. If I was adopting a rescue or buying from a slaughter trailer I would expect the unexpected and that I was taking on health issues. I know things happen but if I sold a horse I thought was healthy and then realized it was laminitic I would take the horse back and refund the person because that's the right thing to do. I'm also angry because the previous owner is being a jerk about the whole thing and telling me I caused this! He obviously knew the horse was sick by the way he's acting. I will NEVER buy a horse again without a PPE and a contract guaranteeing them for at least 30 days. Of course my first priority is to do everything in my power to get him healthy, he's off grain, hay only, bute twice a day. I'm at the barn every night for hours pampering him. But if he is going to have issues chronically with this, I don't want him. Sorry sounds selfish but I don't. Would you actively seek a laminitic horse?? No you would not. I bought a horse 7 days ago and now he is worth nothing, I can't give him away. So excuse me for being angry.
    11-08-2012, 01:39 PM
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Lamanitis is an easily managed condition. With proper care this horse will likely be sound and healthy.

I'm sorry this happened to you, and even more sorry for the pain your unfortunate horse is suffering. You need to make the best of the situation .

I would be pretty upset if I sold a healthy horse and the new owner came back a week later and said it was terribly sick.

You can not " gaurentee'" a living thing.
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    11-08-2012, 01:39 PM
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HAHAHA yes I would and I actually just offered to care for my best friends horse for TWO years while she is deployed. This horse has foundered this summer, has been lame since, abcesses constantly but I offered to care for her while my friend is gone. I even offered to train her during that two years since she is still green and all I asked was that she pay for the board.

I don't know of anyone dumb enough to guarantee a horse for 30 days in writing. Doesn't matter where you bought the horse from, it's an animal, things happen.

And you bet I would get angry if someone who just bought my horse came accusing me of things I had no idea about. I'm guessing you wern't the nicest person to the seller.

If the VET said she wouldn't have seen this on a PPE how would the owner??
    11-08-2012, 01:41 PM
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I bought a horse 7 days ago and now he is worth nothing, I can't give him away. So excuse me for being angry.
Not true. He's only worthless in your eyes because of your anger.

I understand that you're upset, I really do. But unless you can prove that the owner knowingly sold you a chronically laminitic horse, there's nothing you can do.

Yes, it's frustrating and it's going to be some time before you can ride him, but he's not worthless and there's no reason he can't return to full health.

Now you know, and the next time you buy a horse you'll have a PPE done. I don't know of anyone that's going to agree to a 30 day money back guarantee though, so if you're expecting that to happen, you're not likely to be buying any more horses.
    11-08-2012, 01:47 PM
Don't look too much into the chronic part. He may always be predisposed to have laminitis again but as many have told you, it's manageable and he can be ridden - and maybe pretty hard! Just realize that it's going to take effort to get him good again and some adjustments to keep him there but none of it is terribly hard, expensive or unachievable.

I'd get a second opinion on the vet. Find someone else. If it is chronic then fire that first vet.

It sucks and I'm sorry you were put in this situation. It always makes me very sad when a first time owner is swindled or just has bad luck.

But look at it this way - he can be "fixed".
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    11-08-2012, 01:56 PM
Do you want to make me more angry?

If you'd like a transcript of our emails I would gladly forward them to you. He has never answered my calls so I email him.

I very nicely asked him to take the horse back being he is laminitic, refund or not I don't want him.

He replied with 5 sentences telling me that I took a completely healthy horse and I made him sick and that if I tell anyone he sold me a sick horse I would hear from his attorney. The guy is psychotically defensive and angry for no reason other than he knew something when he sold him to me. I'll lose money but I will sue him just out of principle.

Above all nothing makes me more angry than seeing my horse in pain and watching a person I thought was a moral genuine person turn out to be a total scumbag. The whole thing is sickening.
    11-08-2012, 01:58 PM
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I second what everybody else said. Laminitis can come on suddenly, for no apparent reason, the seller couldn't have known. You had two experienced friends who gave you the okay, why don't you blame them, at least for 50%....
Im concerned about the horse right now, withholding grain and giving bute will not heal him, so what else are you doing?
If you don't know, go and ask for help, with pictures of his feet, his current ration and living condition, here at the health section/ hoofcare. You will be given more than qualified help.
And yes, I would take a laminitic horse, anytime.

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