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        11-29-2013, 11:10 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    It would be nice to see him being moved in the same size circle in the 'before' and 'after' for comparison. This is because because a horse will always be sounder when in a straight line than when turning in a circle toward the lame foot.
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        11-29-2013, 11:35 AM
      #22
    Banned
    Because he needs protection all the time get the Easyboots RXS they are for rehabing so can be on 24/7. I have them and they are great. I also got the Gel pads to put in boots too has made a huge diffrence for my horse.
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        11-29-2013, 11:39 PM
      #23
    Trained
    No point in looking at vids for me, because every horse looks real gimpy with the speed of my computer! Also if you could post pics in the thread would be better than a link elsewhere... especially as that site was frustratingly clogged with ads that kept popping up whenever I clicked on a pic or arrow.

    The pics show that he appears to have run forward feet - stretched toes as well as in front feet, seemingly too long but crushed forward heels. So agree with Patty that trimming alone won't be able to 'correct' the P3 angles. IME fixed shoes & wedges aren't very effective at fixing crushed heels either, so I'd be inclined to use wedge pads in boots or such, with reduced pressure on the heel walls to allow them to relax down.

    Another point - perhaps very minor considering - it appears the horse's frogs have been carved in a manner that IME implies the farrier is a routine frog carver - that won't help frogs become strong either. By all means remove any dags, overhangs or diseased tissue, but generally, as with soles, frogs are best left alone.
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        11-30-2013, 03:18 PM
      #24
    Foal
    Ok. Next time I will post pictures in the thread.

    The only boots available in Poland are Cavallo Simple Boots and Cavallo Sport Boots but I don't think they will be appriopriate for him. I think I will have to buy the boots on Ebay and that will be my first time.

    I would be grateful if you could tell me exactly what boots you recommend.
         
        12-01-2013, 05:05 AM
      #25
    Trained
    I'd choose Easycare RX as first choice for full time use.
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        12-01-2013, 02:25 PM
      #26
    Foal
    Thank you. I read about these boots and after next trimming I'm going to measure his hooves and order them. They are sold individually which is great because I think his feet differ from each other.

    Should a navicular horse move around a lot? Is any exercise recommended? Shall I take him for walks on regular basis? I'm not sure if 8-hour turnout is enough for him.
    What do you think? I did some research on the Internet but it seems to be debatable.

    I'm sorry for asking so many questions... but I really need different opinions... The vet said it's hopeless which makes me think that I'm fighting a losing battle... :( However, I won't give up.
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        12-02-2013, 02:02 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Im going to agree with patty on this one. Leaving the bones out of alignment is only furthering the progressive damage. There is a time to shoe. This is one of them. For the short term at least untill tue foot develops a healthier form and angle. Barefoot can't fit this problem. This is different than navicular from tall heels or contraction or such wher3 barefoot works great. Imo stopping the continuing damage is paramount and thst means finding boney alignment and proper healthy limb function. Boots are the long hard way and have to come off a couple hours each day.
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        12-02-2013, 04:27 PM
      #28
    Yearling
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    Im going to agree with patty on this one. Leaving the bones out of alignment is only furthering the progressive damage. There is a time to shoe. This is one of them. For the short term at least untill tue foot develops a healthier form and angle. Barefoot can't fit this problem. This is different than navicular from tall heels or contraction or such wher3 barefoot works great. Imo stopping the continuing damage is paramount and thst means finding boney alignment and proper healthy limb function. Boots are the long hard way and have to come off a couple hours each day.
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    So so true, IMO. I feel you need to correct this immediately, or the damage will only become worse. I would like barefoot too, but not at my horse's expense of prolonging the pain and the damage worsening. There are just some situations where shoeing is best for the horse.

    It's much harder to see damage/lameness in a horse that has it in both feet.
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        12-03-2013, 02:09 AM
      #29
    Trained
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    Should a navicular horse move around a lot? Is any exercise recommended? Shall I take him for walks on regular basis? I'm not sure if 8-hour turnout is enough for him. ...research on the Internet but it seems to be debatable.
    Yeah, wherever you go for info it's always 'debatable'! I'd keep him on full time turnout if possible, excepting if he needs better footing than is available when boots are off. Yes, exercise is good *so long as hooves are able to function properly & mechanics don't lead to further damage*. So I wouldn't be doing much with him until his angles can be appropriately addressed.
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        12-03-2013, 06:03 PM
      #30
    Foal
    My horse got Tildren today. The vet said that these boots might be a very good option for him. He said that I should limit his turnout for a period of time and observe him. He likes to play, he canters and bucks in the pasture too. I hope it will do no harm. A horse should be a horse, and I want him to spend time with his friends.

    When it comes to his feet I am really worried. I can't find a qualified professional. I think I will call the farrier whom I know is open minded. Maybe I can make some suggestions, show x-rays and get some help from the Internet (he is active on the Net too).
    I think I also have to educate myself. I wish there were natural barefoot trimming courses for people like me.
         

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