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post #1 of 17 Old 12-23-2011, 02:33 AM Thread Starter
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Help with hoof angles?

Hi, all! We have a horse that we're leasing out to a girl in 4H. They have their own farrier trim and shoe his feet. Ever since, I've noticed his front feet look a little different and I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like he's really upright on his toes, or has too much heel or something...I am not very knowledgeable with feet and hoof angles. He's also been tripping while being ridden which I never noticed before the farrier switch. I had the mother of the daughter that is riding him, mention this to their farrier and he said, "His angles are great, I don't see a problem." So, I was just wondering what you guys think? Does he have good angles? Sorry the pictures aren't the greatest, I was by myself and only had my cell phone with me. Any help would be appreciated! :)
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post #2 of 17 Old 12-23-2011, 02:39 AM
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The disclaimer is that I am not a farrier and have no professional training.

But he looks short shod to me, meaning the shoe is too small, forcing his hoof into an unnatural shape. His heel does look quite high to me, as well, and in some of the photos the toe looks long, as in overdue for a reset.
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post #3 of 17 Old 12-23-2011, 02:48 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you for the quick reply! Now that you mention it, it does look like his feet are being squished into a size too small shoe. I have talked to Michelle (the mother of the daughter who is leasing my horse) on numerous occasions about how she should ask the farrier about him having too much heel and the farrier's response is always the same, "He has great angles." Kind of disheartening. These pictures were taken today, a day after he trimmed and re-shod Preston's feet. Before that, he looked like he was wearing a pair of heels. Thank you for the response, he's always been sound and always had such nice feet, I would hate for that to change. What are the ramifications of being short-shod? Are there long term damages to the feet?
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Keep in mind that this is speculation only, consult a professional, yada yada. But the first thing I would worry about would be navicular. Generally that's more associated with long toe / low heel syndrome, which isn't really the case here, but you're amplifying concussive force onto a smaller area and that can't be good.

For more professional responses, I'd urge you to check out horseshoes.com and see what the experts there have to say.
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Also not a farrier, but those heels are way too high!
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Agreed, Clava! Those heels look way high 0_0
Maybe give some time off him being shod if possible?
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Absolutely no professional here either.

I agree with all the above; short shod, high heels and can that horse go barefoot over the winter?

I wouldn't take his heels down too much at once either, if they do pull the shoes. He appears (disclaimer there as pictures can be skewed) to be so high that taking them down to what is normal could stretch his tendons too much and sore him up.
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post #8 of 17 Old 12-23-2011, 08:25 AM
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I agree with others assessment. That's a lot of heel! Are the lessees close enough to use your farrier? I'd be very unhappy if I were in your shoes.

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post #9 of 17 Old 12-23-2011, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the replies you guys! This definitely gives me a jumping off point of where to start. I'm also going to take Bubba's advice and post on that horseshoes.com forum to see what they think. I am very unhappy with his shoe job, especially since this farrier has "forgotten" appointments with other clients, and just generally does not seem very reputable. The leesee is close to where I live and after I have a talk with them, I will definitely have them switch over to our farrier.

I'm glad my concerns weren't unfounded. It's just hard telling someone that their shoer is not doing a good shoe job when the so called professional tells them that there is nothing wrong and the shoe job is just fine. :/
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I'm going to agree with what has been said - I'm not a professional but I do tirm my own horses feet and I must say ... ditch the individual who is trimming/shoeing that horse. There is nothing "great" about that. Have them use the farrier you choose.
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