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post #11 of 52 Old 07-07-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by totalfreedom View Post

Since you don't have many trimmers in your area, then IMO, it would be well worth your time to gain the knowledge required to maintain a healthy hoof. Believe, you, will pay off, and IMO you be very happy that you did. Gain as much knowledge as you can and if you can find someone that knows hoof mapping then use them and learn from them while also gaining your own knowledge. Check out and google hoof mapping. I really like Linda's stuff on youtube...her channel is thehappyhoof she also has a yahoo group by the same name.

I have to agree. Additionally, if you can, give some hoof supplement to strengthen hoof walls and help with some of the cracking.
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post #12 of 52 Old 07-07-2013, 08:39 PM
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The heels are really contracted on the fronts. I see flaring on the sides of all the feet and dishing in the fronts. The feet don't look balanced. It's hard to see in the picts but it looks like on each hoof that the collateral groove is not the same depth along the sides of the frog. He's got a little bit of white line separation going on, but it's mostly on sides.
Other than balancing the hoof better and taking the flares back a little more, I don't know if he could have done a better job on this trim. It looks like the heel is taken down as much as can be done and the toe is back.
I would talk to him about balancing the hoof and you may want to get the horse trimmed more often until his feet start looking better.

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post #13 of 52 Old 07-10-2013, 02:33 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks a lot for your thoughts, all! Gave me some feed for thoughts. This weekend I'll try to rasp off some of the flaring that has been left and attempt to make the whole view more balanced. I'm lucky to have a fellow boarder who trims only her horse, but is always happy to help with technique and advice.

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post #14 of 52 Old 07-11-2013, 01:50 AM
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I'm only self taught, so take my post with a grain of salt, hopefully someone with more experience can chime in if I've missed anything.

First the good....all things considered, the heels are nicely trimmed and brought back to where they should be.

Now onto the bad....there is a lot of toe and quarter flare. Anything not well connected needs to be bevelled so it is not is not weight bearing, it will just continue to flare if its left as is.

Looking at the hind feet from the bottom side view, there is too much wall left longer in the quarters. This needs to be rasped down to avoid "jamming in the quarters" ( notice how the top edge of the front hoof bulges up and is not straight when viewed from the side ).

My personal suggestions.... going based on the top 1/4 of the hoof, you can see the angle of the hoof that has a strong connection. If you imagine that continued down you can see just how much is flared. In my doodles below, I would rasp at the red lines. This removes any leverage off wall already flared out and will allow the hoof to grow out tightly connected. I would also make sure to remove any excess wall in the quarters.

In the photos below, green lines indicate where I think the hoof is trying to tell me it wants to be.

In the front on photo, the blue line represent the level top of the hoof. Based on this I drew where I think the level bottom of the hoof "should" be ( never rasp or cut into live sole to achieve certain angles ).

In the side on photo, the yellow line shows how straight the top edge of the hoof should be. That bulge above it is the jamming mentioned above.

In the bottom view, the hoof should be roughly round. Especially at the toe I would bevel strongly to relieve the pressures on the flaring walls.

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post #15 of 52 Old 07-11-2013, 02:37 PM
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That bottom picture is telling ;) The circle lets you see just how out of whack this foot is. It needs it's toe brought in badly. If you drew a line across the widest part of the foot (which is about i inch back from the actual apex of the frog, not that false one), you will see you have much more toe than heel area. It should be opposite.You can even see the indent of a stretched forward frog that will trick the eye. I see trim inconsistencies everywhere on the other feet as well. It could be worse, but it also could be alot better and those toes will never sort themselves with that kind of trim. Google ELPO hoof mapping.

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post #16 of 52 Old 07-11-2013, 03:03 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks a lot, this is really helpful!
More opinions/ideas welcome, too. :)

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post #17 of 52 Old 07-17-2013, 11:41 PM
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We have very few farriers in our community as well and it is difficult for us to find someone willing to trim our horses since we don't use shoes. In all honesty, we normally get the "odd" look when we tell people we prefer to use boots. This is the reason my husband started researching on YouTube. It has many great videos on how to correctly trim the front and back hooves, along with many others that show what each part of the hoof is. Within a month, he has everything almost down pat and our horses hooves look much better now. If you can find someone to mentor you in your area, that would be even better~ but there ARE videos that can help you learn.
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post #18 of 52 Old 07-18-2013, 01:44 AM
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The " do trim" chapter, especially the " white line strategy" part.
easy to read and understand with lots of pics of the different stages of the trim.
Print the chapter and have it right next to you for reference when you trim.
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post #19 of 52 Old 07-18-2013, 01:58 AM
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Ditto what deserthorsewomen said that's a great site. Iv been using it to help me get my own horses trimmed. Printed off the do trim part so I could look at it if needed.

Done two of my own horses here and their feet look way better then when farrier did them. Never going the farrier route.....well having farrier out to do one horse. If he doesn't do him right he's gone and fast.
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post #20 of 52 Old 07-18-2013, 06:48 PM
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The 2 left side hooves look unbalanced. The front feet-how did they get looking like ski lifts with being trimmed monthly? That roll is hideous. I'd be embarrassed.
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