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    11-08-2013, 12:53 AM
  #41
Trained
Agree that there were other factors, that 'road founder' wasn't likely the *only* cause of Spirit's horses 'developing' laminitis. I know we've been over it before, but is highly likely tho Spirit, that that level of 'use' at least contributed, especially if the horses were shod conventionally. We've been there before, but hope you now go easier on other horses in your care.
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    11-08-2013, 01:05 AM
  #42
Yearling
25 miles a day is what a typical riding stable horse does here in the middle of season. I used to trail guide for 10 years on and off. Only they rode 7 days a week unless the horse was unwell or injured. Hundreds of examples can't be wrong. A fit horse can do 25 miles a day easily at the walk and trot with som3 cantering. How fast depends on the horses build genetics and fitness level. It also has zero to do with how sound a horse will stay shod or bare unless you are riding on pavement at a trot or canter. Just the facts ;)
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    11-08-2013, 01:12 AM
  #43
Green Broke
The horse this thread was initially about (no, that wasn't a hint hint, I am glad it was helpful to others!) had his first bout of laminitis after a hard ride.
The horse is in my mothers care and she let a college age neighbor's cousin ride my horse (yes... STILL rather upset) who is in 100% pasture condition, 18 years old with issues that are not problems, but still need to be managed (mild heart murmer, old ddft injury, overweight at the time, etc) All I know is she wrapped his legs (supposedly knows how but my mom doesn't so how can she supervise?) and our neighbor took the pony and they came back an hour later with both horses DRIPPING sweat. Yes, as I said, still fuming. Point is his laminitis issues started the following week. Since then he has been SUPER sensitive to diet, but the initial cause was the ride, plus two 15 minute hand grazing sessions. Things normal horses wouldn't have a problem with, but he had undiagnosed Cushings (which we suspected once the laminitis started and the vet confirmed). If such a minor trigger can put an (admittedly predisposed) horse over the edge I can't imaging riding a horse that hard. Distance every now and then, sure. Speed sometimes, sure. Both regularly? Not to mention the concussion going all the way up the legs, etc.

I think the issue was when spirit mentioned 25 miles in 1 1/2 hours. I'm sure that is not the pace all the time, but still. Now I'm interested in finding out how far our schoolies go in a heavy lesson day.. Of course they are in a ring though.


In a completely not offensive way, I envy the amount of riding time you get :) Mine are basically pasture puffs atm.
     
    11-08-2013, 01:13 AM
  #44
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Agree that there were other factors, that 'road founder' wasn't likely the *only* cause of Spirit's horses 'developing' laminitis. I know we've been over it before, but is highly likely tho Spirit, that that level of 'use' at least contributed, especially if the horses were shod conventionally. We've been there before, but hope you now go easier on other horses in your care.

The other horse that had laminitis only was lame a week he hadn't hardly been riden this year so dout that caused it. Like iv said we don't ride them that hard every day. The only way to keep my horse from being fat is hard riding. That's the way its been now for 5 years.

Ok I know wev been hard on our horse don't need someone on here getting snarky with me it makes me seriously mad. Can't undo how we rode them ok its been a tough road to go down with laminitis and everything else.

Iv learned my lesson on thing every day I regret what iv done to my horse. Iam barely coping with things right now....iam seriously struggling I don't let it be know I keep it to myself..
     
    11-08-2013, 01:14 AM
  #45
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Originally Posted by Trinity3205    
25 miles a day is what a typical riding stable horse does
Yep, it was the 'in an hour & a half' bit that I object to, especially with further info on hooves & terrain etc. Also the 'what do you care' REALLY got my hackles up - perhaps more than Spirit does with that comment!
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    11-08-2013, 01:16 AM
  #46
Yearling
I wish I had a saddle miles odometer. I bet its in the tens of thousands of saddle miles... And the horses had odometers. Some of the most sound ones went the furthest longest. We sold alot of good trail horses running a herd of up to 80 at the biggest ou5fit in the summers, but we also had a core herd of about 20 or 30ish that wasnt for sale and worked longer than I guided.
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    11-08-2013, 01:20 AM
  #47
Yearling
It depends on what the horse is fitted up for. Take a lightl6 ridden horse and go pound down 25 mmiles and you a4e sure to have a lame horse. A fitted horse doesnt blink at it. Im not going to argue time frames and milage since that just depends and mikage and times often get skewed.
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    11-08-2013, 01:38 AM
  #48
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Yeah, agree Trinity(those were the days!), just knowing (a lot)more of the story & hearing the way things get put... & contradicted...

Anyway, back to OP, back on topic. I don't believe that ride was the CAUSE of your horse's laminitis either, by the sounds of other factors. Sounds like he was on the edge already, but it may well have been 'the straw that broke the camel'.

So if the horse has 'foundered', how is his hoof form? Is it likely to change much? - Eg are there still flares, etc? That will also have a bearing on boot type.
     
    11-08-2013, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Yep, it was the 'in an hour & a half' bit that I object to, especially with further info on hooves & terrain etc. Also the 'what do you care' REALLY got my hackles up - perhaps more than Spirit does with that comment!

We only did the one time in an hour and a half horses were super fit hardly even breathing hard from it. No our trails are all bad footing either.that comment why should you care was aimed at whimpy not anyone else.
     
    11-08-2013, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wimpy    
I second Loosie's . I've seen post after post of yours lamenting the problems you're having with your horses' feet. Do you just suppose your hoof problems could be caused by pounding on them 25 miles, six days a week?
even the pony express riders had remounts and real working cowboys have their remuda to pick from. They surely don't use the same horses every day.
NO I don't supose it did like I said earlier what do you care if it did. Oh also been doing the 25 miles for 5 years every summer. SO NO I don't dont supose it DID cause laminitis even if it did my horse my problem!!!

Also he's sound now.... just so you know vet said he will be good to ride again next year. Yep back to being fit and lean and guess what 25 miles 6 days a week. I know for a fact its 25 miles have a GPS.
     

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