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        04-05-2013, 05:52 PM
      #31
    Trained
    Waaaaaaay better.
         
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        04-05-2013, 06:08 PM
      #32
    Trained
    Hmm, hard to say too much from those sole pics(some diff angles??) but it appears the front heels aren't too bad, regarding being run forward, but hinds are. Toes(& around quarters) are way long all round - meaning stretched forward. They don't need/can't afford anything off them from the ground surface, but desperately need to be backed up/bevelled. On the front sole pic, you can see what looks like the sole bulging, just in front of P3 border, then it dips down before the walls - I'd probably be inclined to bevel them to the outside of that bulge.
         
        04-05-2013, 09:55 PM
      #33
    Yearling
    There is a great deal of false sole on all those feet and long tall bars that need cleaned up. Those deep grooves around the frog is a dead giveaway alongside all that cracking sole around the frog. She needs trimmed now for function. False sole removed and the walls better beveled. If she is sore, she can be casted, or booted if you choose, after a proper setup trim. I don't think this farrier knows how to do this.
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        04-06-2013, 04:55 AM
      #34
    Foal
    Hi, and thank you for all this help.

    So, I have read what I can and tried to absorb and put into use what I have read. I didn't like the last trim at all and hated the way her feet were looking. I was getting very concerned that due to the poor choices I have made with her that this may not be fixable and she could be in chronic pain. If you could only see how unhappy she was an how her feet were hurting.

    So I called a barefoot trimmer that also does holistic medicine and treats the entire horse not just the feet. I explained as much as I could over the phone and she came by in the afternoon.

    She was very happy that the feet were not as bad as she had expected. She said that my horse has healthy feet, just not trimmed right and from the shoes etc it will take around 6 months to get her back to where she should be.

    She said the poor horse has no heels now and they have really streched all the tubules forward but that she can bring the heels back under her. She beveled the toes and worked on the sole and frog etc. She also worked on the back feet. She thinks she had a lamanitis event around 6 months ago. She is going to trim her again in 4 weeks unless the hoof walls get to a certain point before that then she will be out sooner. She didn't see any sign of an absess anymore or of any thrush.

    She wants me to stop giving her the triple crown lite and feed her only the hay in the freedom feeder. That is to always remain full. She is going to drop off a supplement to me in the afternoon that has been formulated for southern california grass. She told me to discontinue the supplements I have her on due to extra iron in some and other things canceling out minerals. I am only to give her 1 cup of carrots a day and cut out all sugars etc.

    She thinks she suffers from GI issues and also a very sore lumbar back area. She told me not to ride her for now. She wants me to get a chiropractor ASAP and continue with one that she recomended that is a veterinarian.

    She said I need to find her someplace else to live where she can have way more room, but no grass to eat. That part is going to be hard. She is in a 50x24 with a 12x12 barn that she loves.

    She wants me to walk her as much as possible because she said that is the best thing for her and explained why.

    She carries around a cadaver mustang foot and regular life being shod hoof and explains allot about the difference.

    She worked on my horse the entire time without so much as a halter on her and when she started to get fussy she let her just walk away.

    I finally feel so much better about everything. I will get pictures tomorrow.

    Thanks again for all the help.
         
        04-06-2013, 12:30 PM
      #35
    Banned
    You said she has no heels then turn around and say trimmer can get her heels back underneath her.

    If trimmer is going to get them back underneath her then those heels are under run. So they would be to long that can make it seem like there's no heel.

    Really hope this trimmer is good best of luck. Finding good trimmers or farriers can be tough.
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        04-06-2013, 01:45 PM
      #36
    Yearling
    Trimmer sounds like a keeper so far. Lots of pluses and lots of things Id have said also. She is absolutely right about the movement. Standing around all day does nothing to help a horses feet.

    Hope it all works out!
         
        04-06-2013, 08:51 PM
      #37
    Trained
    Subbing to see the new pics.

    But I have to ask -- you give her a cup of carrots a day? And that's a reduced amount? Why are you giving her carrots by the cupful?
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        04-07-2013, 01:57 AM
      #38
    Foal
    Hi,

    Carrots are something she has been given in excess by me and by anyone at the ranch who walks by her. She is very personable and she loves carrots.
    She will do anything for a carrot and you can do anything to her provided she is eating a carrot. Whe she has escaped she runs up to the fridge and waits for a carrot.

    The reality is that I wasn't aware how much carrots she was getting daily until I started to keep track. Around 10 to 15 a day or more. So, I know she is overweight and this shoer wants her to lose 50lbs so I asked her how much carrots is to much and she relpied "no more than a cup of carrots". Today she had 3 small carrots.

    The shoer came out today and brought me some home made supplement treats for her which she really likes, and she showed me a few things with her. She is going to look at her again in 2 weeks and if all is going well trim her in 4 weeks.

    Spirit, I was going by what the farrier had told me about her heals. Farrier number 4. He just did her feet Tuesday. This current trimmer is "the trimmer" she just did her feet yesterday.

    Her feet do look great. I am so happy to have found this trimmer. Now, I have to get the chiropractor out.
         
        04-07-2013, 05:50 PM
      #39
    Trained
    Wow, that's a heck of a lot of visits and treats! You'll definitely have to break her off those carrots and get her to like coming for your company instead of for your carrots :)

    Ready for the pics from yesterday now.... please...
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        04-08-2013, 01:51 AM
      #40
    Foal
    Hi.
    Sorry for the delay. Still not good pictures but maybe you will be able to see enough. She is getting real sick of me messing with her feet etc. The lady that did her feet checked on her yesterday and brought her some home made supplement cookies. She is going to look at her again in 2 weeks and trim her in 4 weeks if all is going okay.

    It looks like I wasted a bunch of money on supplements that I can't use and feed I don't need to use either. She said that the hay in California is rich in iron and my horse should not have additional iron in her diet.

    I have started excersizing her way more. She is not to happy about that.

    My horse doesn't have any interest in me other than food I think. But I did cut the carrots down to just 2 small ones today. But, when I left the ranch for about an hour I got a report that she was kicking the corral pipe rails while I was gone.

    It gets frustrating. I know she is bored etc. but I spend no less than 6 hours a day with her every day. I stay allot longer when I can. I think the only option for her is really to find a much larger place for her to live in. I talked to the BO last night about maybe renting out a pasture that is on a hill behind the house, but right now there are cows there that should be leaving in 30 days but who really knows. Might not happen at all.

    Thanks for the help.
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