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    05-19-2013, 01:26 AM
  #51
Yearling
Beet pulp and alfalfa are both used to put weight ON a horse, so I am curious about these dietary choices if you are trying to get her to loose weight? Not judging, just trying to understand. And I hope things continue to improve with her feet. I am just learning myself, so will stay tuned to see future progress.
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    05-19-2013, 06:01 AM
  #52
Weanling
Hi;

Didn't think you were.

She also has ulcers. So, the beet pulp, after it is soaked, is rinsed many times to remove as much of the starch as able. The beet pulp stays in the stomach longer, so the aloe vera juice will have contact with the stomach longer in order to help it heal. At least that was the way it was explained to me. Also the beet pulp will help her feel full longer.

I don't know if it will work or not. But I am trying it because I am out of other options right now.

If I withold food for any length of time she kicks the walls of the barn till she breaks through them. If not in the barn she kicks the pipe corral. She is very food aggressive and obsessed.

The alfalfa is higher in calcium which is also good for the ulcers. She only gets 3lbs a day.
     
    05-19-2013, 09:18 AM
  #53
Trained
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Originally Posted by lightning    
When I look at the soles, the white line (which is dark pink) is right up to the edge of the hoof at the toe. I don't think she could trim off anymore than she has without actually going into the white line.
Yep, without sole pics, not sure, but suspect that you may have a little way to go, but ensuring you keep the toes back at least to the white line with a strong bevel would be good - while you don't want to invade the actual sole, you can at least make the bevel a lot steeper, and you may be able to go into the 'white line', to keep everything outside relieved. But it depends & I haven't seen the foot properly...

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My horse's heels seemed painful to me. .... I am want her to lose 100lbs and also build up some muscle. She was reluctant to walk much without the boots. With the boots she is much more willing. So, now I can increase her excersize
That's great... not the sore heels but that you've got boots & found they're working for her & *gentle exercise will be good for her *so long as she's comfortable & not forced. Yes, with heels - or lack of - like that, would expect her to be sore on them - & inside them. I think heel support is a good idea, but instead of jacking the whole foot up at the back, I would be providing a bit of gentle support *under the frog*. Heels are already weak, so softish & thinnish best, for now at least, and being only under the frog, will give the heels some slight relief, to hopefully allow them to start growing down. You can duct tape foam 'frog supports' to her feet before booting, or glue them in the boots.
     
    05-19-2013, 09:33 AM
  #54
Trained
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Originally Posted by lightning    
The beet pulp stays in the stomach longer, ...Also the beet pulp will help her feel full longer. ...If I withold food for any length of time she kicks the walls
Yeah, kicking the walls sounds like she's quite stressed about it. What are you doing for the ulcers? I'm no nutritionist but I thought horse's stomachs emptied automatically every 15 mins or so, or whenever full. Regardless what feed. That is one reason why, for eg. Starchy, especially large meals are problematic - large amounts of undigested starchy feed hitting the hind gut. As horses are 'trickle feeders' and not built for large rich feeds, or going hungry for any length of time, these things can also be problematic. Free choice but 'slow fed' hay is a good option - it's always there but the horse can't gorge on it. Oh & without added sugar, beet pulp is quite low NSC already and is a good feed for conditioning.

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The alfalfa is higher in calcium which is also good for the ulcers. She only gets 3lbs a day.
Again, I'm no expert on it, but I'd look more into the calcium thing, I'm not so sure, & also look into magnesium for horses. 3lb a day is not unsubstantial, especially if you're wanting her to lose weight. Also best not fed all in one feed, especially as it sounds like she already has a very sensitive gut.
     
    05-19-2013, 10:26 AM
  #55
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightning    
Hi;

Didn't think you were.

She also has ulcers. So, the beet pulp, after it is soaked, is rinsed many times to remove as much of the starch as able. The beet pulp stays in the stomach longer, so the aloe vera juice will have contact with the stomach longer in order to help it heal. At least that was the way it was explained to me. Also the beet pulp will help her feel full longer.

I don't know if it will work or not. But I am trying it because I am out of other options right now.

If I withold food for any length of time she kicks the walls of the barn till she breaks through them. If not in the barn she kicks the pipe corral. She is very food aggressive and obsessed.

The alfalfa is higher in calcium which is also good for the ulcers. She only gets 3lbs a day.
Thank you for explaining. She already has a slow feeder, right?

I personally don't have experience with ulcers, but know from reading on here that there are several good vet-prescribed meds that work wonders and as I recall are not that expensive. I understand going the homeopathic route (do it for myself for certain ailments), but if she doesn't clear up with your present methods you may wish to look in to those.

Will she play with a ball? Some horses love Jolly Balls, others have no interest. She really sounds like a tough situations and that you are doing a great job with her difficulties. Hats off to you for trying so many things for a horse that many would simply give up on.
     
    05-21-2013, 11:55 PM
  #56
Weanling
Hi

Sorry for the delay in response. Had massive amount of dental work done today and been feeling pretty bad.

Anyway, I have been questioning the beet pulp myself. I can't really find anything saying it is good for fat horses. So, I didn't give it today or yesterday. Can't really say as there is an improvement yet but it has only been two days.

She has two freedom feeders that I keep full with bermuda grass. I have one inside her barn and one outside to encourage her to move around, which she does.

The kicking is caused by many different things. She kicks if I am not there and she kicks if she is out of food. She has hurt herself bad with the kicking so I am kind of up against a wall when it comes to restricting her food intake. We have cut out the carrots and any grazing she was doing.

I am hoping that with the boots alowing her feet to land normal that I can increase her excersize. So far so good as I now have her working up a sweat before cooling her off with just as much time spent warming up as "working" as cooling down. Still of course it isn't enough but it is all I can do. In a perfect world she would have a couple of acres to roam about but I just don't have the ability to do that with her now.

She doesn't play. It is sad but she just doesn't. From talking ot her previous owners she never did. Everything with her is food. I do get her to walk around the arena by having some food. But that is the closest to a game as we get.

She is a very nice horse to people, to me. I will sit on her bareback as I cannot find a saddle to fit her. I am not a good rider so if I start to slip she immediately stops.
     
    05-21-2013, 11:56 PM
  #57
Weanling
As for the vet meds for ulcers. I tried the omeprazole for two months and she wound up with impaction colic and no improvement with the ulcers.
     

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