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    07-29-2013, 09:22 PM
hoof critique?

Had his feet done yesterday, they are looking much better then they did when I bought them but still not quite there yet. What I see is his heels are still really low and toes still a bit long :( I try to trim him a little every two weeks and my farrier comes every 6-7. What can I do to try and help him? Also, the line you notice is from him doing his lymes treatment last month. He had the same line happen in December when he did lymes treatment then.

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    07-29-2013, 09:24 PM
And here are the backs:
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    08-01-2013, 10:01 PM
No one? I'd love input on how to improve
    08-01-2013, 11:57 PM
I'm afraid the pictures don't show enough detail to give a good critique.

Check out this link for how to take good, critique-able photos: www.all-natural-horse-care.com/good-hoof-photos.html

    08-02-2013, 12:07 AM
Yeah, I've seen that, ill have to try to get better lighting and try again. Thanks
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    08-02-2013, 09:44 AM
Hi, yes better pix wud help. Assuming I'm getting an accurate picture... Don't take that as a given... Longish stretched fwd front toes, long but crushed forward heels(that's a definite) ESP in fronts. Also appears some m/l imbalance esp in right fore & hinds and hinds may be broken fwd h/p axis. Bevelling toes, keeping heels short(er) & supporting hooves from underneath(as opposed to under walls) will help. See the ELPO site for help with balance.
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    08-02-2013, 12:07 PM
Thanks! I've started trying to read more about the elpo but I don't completely understand all of it :( he's my first horse and first horse I've really managed the hoof care with. My farrier still comes regularly but I just try to do a little inbetween because he grows so fast! I tried asking more questions on Sunday, but I don't feel I get the best answers from him. I asked about his bars and heels and he thought they were doing pretty good...mainly just tells me to make sure I work on the insides of his backs because that's where he gets imbalanced first.

"m/l imbalance esp in right fore & hinds and hinds may be broken fwd h/p axis. "

I'm not entirely sure what that means? I'm at work so just replying quickly but ill try to look into it later when I'm home.

Thanks for the reply though, ill try to get some better pictures. Have to find a good spot around the barn to take them lol
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    08-02-2013, 12:49 PM
Hi. With the M-L balance, it looks like farrier suffers from right handed or left handed disease, LOL. It would be better if you get on the ground, and put your camera on the ground dead centered and shoot the pic with the light behind you.

Run forward means that the heels are too long, and need a swipe every week to get them to grow taller in the right direction, which is down. You can't get better heel any other way. Bringing to back will prevent the heels from running forward as well.

One hoof looks more upright than the other. Hi/Lo syndrome? The upright one seems to be growing hoof out at the angle it should be. The other has room to take the toe back more and the LR is jamming on the inside, which may need to be shortened a bit on the outside.

They look like nice healthy strong hooves.
    08-02-2013, 02:15 PM
Ohh, thanks for the details!

So swiping back the heels, got it! One video on youtube I was watching actually showed to do that, so i've been trying to a little bit, but I'm also scared of over doing it. I was doing it like every two weeks, I'll switch to doing it every week though.

I should try and find my old camera I used in a photography lab in college years ago...lol would probably be easier to sit on the ground and take pics with then my iphone! I'm thinking maybe I can walk him down to the driveway for pics too, much leveler ground and its not in the shade. I'm wondering if the hi/lo you're seeing is just from the ground being a little uneven? I was worried the pics wouldn't come out well up there but I wasn't sure where else to try taking some...but I'll try the driveway I think!

If I can tonight I'll get better pics, I have to tend to the woman I board withs pony though, she's out of town and of course right before going out of town, she gets a huge gash on her leg :( Sooo if I have time before the sun goes down I'll get some! Maybe I can talk my bf into coming too so he can help hold Dexter still while I take the pics.
    08-02-2013, 06:35 PM
Left feet appear slightly higher on outside, esp hind, rights higher on inside, esp fore. Dorsal wall(at the top) & Pastern angles should match. Forgot to say that apart from long, crushed heels, feet look pretty reasonable

No offence & not assuming you do, but just because you learned it on the net(or anywhere) doesn't make it a good idea. There are a heap of conflicting views out there & lots of guidelines but heaps of exceptions & if you don't understand when, why, why not... I think it's very important to understand the theory behind it all too. I'd stick to trimming no more than 2 weekly too... Unless you're trimming fronts one week, hinds the next
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