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    11-02-2011, 03:00 PM
  #1
Foal
Question hoof issues/farrier error? and past injury to blame?

Raisin is having dryness issues with all his hooves but the one with the past injury is the worst. Anyways. Here is the first pic. I have never seen this done and it could be just something I am over reacting about. In this pic (2 days after his hooves were done) it looks like he took a knife to his frog and sawed half of his frog. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the frog something you don't want to mess with cause that is like what keeps circulation going?
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Now this next pic....
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On the top right you can see the old scar (still healing in my book) the previous owners said it happened when he was 1. (He's 5 now) he got barbed wire wrapped around his foot and cut through his hoof wall? I think anyways. It is growing out a lot better then when I got him. (He NEVER had his feet done all his life before I got him because the owners stated 'the concrete trimmed the hooves') *sigh* so I wanted to find some flax (but don't know where to get it in my area) but its raining finally after 3 months without rain and the pasture is getting muddy so that may solve the dry problem.
I would love some imput on what all of you would do to rehab this old injury. I have been using Vetericyn on the scar. It looks 100% better than when I got him. I swear by that stuff :) but for the hoof I don't know if I'm doing all I can. Getting regular trimsand using some hoof heal 3 times a week and soaking his feet while he eats his grain every morning.
I will see if I can find the old pic I took when I got him.
Thanks everyone in advance!
     
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    11-02-2011, 04:24 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Hooves being too dry or too moist have nothing to do with the farrier and everything to do with the horse's living environment and diet

The hoof scar he got as a yearling from barbed wire is going to be with him for his entire life - there's nothing you can do about that.

I have a horse that also went thru a barbed wire fence, right after his previous owners bought him. Joker was 3 or 4 when the Boss Mare ran him thru the fence and ripped his chest, leg, hoof open.

He is now 12 years old. The hoof scar has never bothered him for shoeing, or to keep him barefoot. He is insulin resistant so he gets a soy-free vit/min supplement but no grain. He is one of those rare horses that is flax intolerant, so the only flax he gets is what's in the vit/min supplement. The other three get extra flax.

At any rate, just be sure to keep the trims current, according to how fast his hooves grow.

I noticed a surface crack below the scar tissue. That could be there for several reasons, including pressure from the scar because his toes are too long.

It's hard to see but the right front is the one with the old scar tissue, just like your horse has. Joker's is slightly right of dead center. I also learned, in 2010, that he is insulin resistant, so there's what the vet called "sub-clinical laminitis" still growing out in these pictures.

Point-being his hooves have had a lot to deal with; what he has in his favor is exceptionally thick hoof wall. If he ever gets surface cracks, I have messed up his trimming horribly. I hope this helps ease some of your concern but still keep an eye on the scar and don't be afraid to oil it if it looks like it might want to separate.


Regarding the frog sawing:) My computer screen skewes everything but I think the farrier may have taken off the amount he did because there was some thrush in the hoof. Do I see a purple dot of Thrush Buster on the frog or is that my screen deflecting colors again?

Another of my horses has a mild club hoof and deals with thrush every time the seasons change. I just got done shaving off the "soapy" dead stuff, along with as little of the live stuff I could get away with, that the dead stuff wouldn't let go of.

Again, it could be my screen and I'm not seeing things correctly. You are correct that frogs don't generally get trimmed but if there's fungus and/or bacterial growth sometimes a little of the healthy has to be cut to get all that's not healthy:)
     
    11-02-2011, 04:35 PM
  #3
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by raisinandelana    
In this pic (2 days after his hooves were done) it looks like he took a knife to his frog and sawed half of his frog. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the frog something you don't want to mess with cause that is like what keeps circulation going?


On the top right you can see the old scar (still healing in my book) the previous owners said it happened when he was 1. (He's 5 now) he got barbed wire wrapped around his foot and cut through his hoof wall?

I would love some imput on what all of you would do to rehab this old injury. I have been using Vetericyn on the scar. It looks 100% better than when I got him.
Yes - the frog does need to be trimmed. Nippers or hoof knife is typically used.

As was said, the scar will always be there. There is no rehabbing. The hair folicles were damaged and will no longer grow hair.
     
    11-02-2011, 05:09 PM
  #4
Foal
I am a little iffy on the previous owners telling me this happened 4yrs ago. Cause within the first month of having him clear fluid was starting to seep out. I know tthat scar will always be there but ever since I've been using the vetericyn it doesent look so "mean" if that makes any sence lol.
As for thrush... he hasn't had it since I got him.
Does his hooves look too long still for just being done? My farrier said he didn't want to take too much off because they were so dry so idk. My farrier I had in minnesota I trusted him 110% in his worksmanship so I guess its just hard trusting someone different than him.
Thanks to you both!
     
    11-03-2011, 07:05 PM
  #5
Trained
Need some better pics to say much. Check out the link in my signature for good tips on taking hoof pics for critique. Re frog paring, I think it's when that sort of trimming is done as a matter of course that it's not helpful, but IMO it looks like the farrier took more off the frog than I would guess necessary - it looks pretty healthy to me, albeit contracted a bit, but as others have said, if there's infection, it's important to treat it and I would probably have opened up the central sulcus a bit.

As for the hooves being left too long, as I said, hard to judge from those pics, but it doesn't look like he could have taken much more off the ground surface without getting into sole. His foot looks good & dry. What are you soaking them for? If the weather's got wet, you'll probably find he'll soon lose that retained dead sole, which could mean there's suddenly a lot of excess wall length.

Diet & nutrition are indeed important and flax/linseed is one good supp, IMO. You can either use cold pressed oil - important to buy it in a light proof container - or the flax seeds whole & grind up a little fresh daily for him. There are generally many nutrients that are lacking or imbalanced in a horse's diet, so I reckon it's a good idea to analyse the diet first & work out what's missing. I find feedxl.com an easy way to do this.

As for the crack, as with thrushy frogs, if there's infection present, it may be important to open it up to treat it. Soaking in something to kill infection would be helpful. He will probably always have a 'fault line' from the coronet injury, but the crack should grow out if treated properly.
     

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