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post #1 of 7 Old 05-05-2012, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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hoof jack hinds

My mare "no likey" farriers" - so I do it myself and am always hoping this will eventually lead to - her letting someone else do it. To date, I am still on the hoping part. She is barefoot. I got a hoofjack and had to train her to "do her part". Well, she really doesn't like her hind feet "stretched" back into the jack, so I just let her rest it in the jack in a position parallel to her opposing hock at the lowest elevation. She is happy with that and it works. It makes it just a tad more difficult for me, but it seems the best I can do. Now, I realize she would have more "kick" momentum, which I hope is never a problem. I baby her when it comes to her feet, but then again, she babies me.

So, my question to those in horse forum land is...where do you all position your horse's hinds on the jack, do you stretch it out to where a farrier would place it, or?

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So, my question to those in horse forum land is...where do you all position your horse's hinds on the jack, do you stretch it out to where a farrier would place it, or?
Where ever the horse appears to be most comfortable.

Equine behavior is proportional to the quality of service I can provide. Comfort is a big part of that behavior.

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^^ What he said! I find that if you ask *politely* and don't try to force the horse into an uncomfortable position, you shall receive. Try to 'tell' or force them & their behaviour tends to get worse.... & you may well receive more than you bargained for!

I also find that if a horse is unwilling to bring her back foot out behind, or otherwise feels stiff & tight when asked in a considerate way, it is commonly because they're sore somewhere, such as in their hips. Therefore getting a good bodyworker to come check her over would be my suggestion.
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Like they said, wherever the horse happens to be the most comfortable. I also agree with loosie that it might not be a bad idea to maybe have a chiro out to check her over, especially if you suspect her reluctance might be more than just her being snotty.
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Thank you all for your replies! I feel "reassured". That helps!!! I was feeling a bit insecure about my "method". I might look into the hip thing, although she is the most limber horse I have ever owned. She is just a "tad" overweight. :) Which might add to it...and trust me...I try very hard to slim her down.

I am going to have my farrier come to "review" my work and make sure I am on the right track. I do just about everything w my mare at liberty, so if she has an itch or something, she just walks off and takes care of it, and comes right back and offers whichever hoof we were on. I love my farrier, she thinks my mare is a bit spoiled, but she understands the bond we have and "works w us". And, when I get to the hinds, she might question my "positioning", but, now I feel more confident to just stay w it. Since it is dangerous (she kicks at farriers), I won't be asking her to do anything w her hinds, I just want her to check what I am doing and thinking. She is a fantastic farrier...I wish she could do the work! :(

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I'd just keep close, keep your backside towards her a bit & your head out of the way, legs bent.(unlike the ad on my screen ATM of a woman trimming in a bad position). So if she does kick at you, she'll get the back of your leg & it'll give, so you may get a bruise but hopefully no worse. I'd also keep relaxed & in contact with her, so you should then feel her tension before she actually kicks.

If your farrier is coming out anyway & is indeed good at working *with* the horse & has good timing, perhaps she'd be willing to help teach your horse that not all farriers are bad news despite previous experiences. Of course you'd have to pay for her time & I'd make it clear you aren't expecting her to actually get the job done until/unless she's comfortable to do so.
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Thanks for the advise, Loosie. I think I do get a little too relax w her sometimes, and I lose "awareness" of my position. Always good to take precaution.

Yeah, she (my farrier) always schedules extra time for us. I am hoping all of the hoofjack work I have done w her helps. We will give it a go w the fronts to "test" for any improvement in attitude, if none is to be found, we will just stick w me doing it, and having it "reviewed". My mare gets really poopy w farriers, no matter how "good" they are w her, but never w me..it is so odd. I use to resort to silly stuff like letting her watch my buckskin get trimmed - who is always the genteman for a farrier. Seems funny, now. Always hoping.

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