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    04-04-2012, 09:34 PM
  #1
Yearling
Hoof Peeling - Has anyone seen this before?

So I got a text message from a friend who checked on my horse today. She said my horse's hoof was peeling. I headed out to check on it, thinking it was just the periople peeling. Upon investigation I noticed it is not the periople, but is the hoof wall. It is on all 4 feet, and is on the coronet band. I immediately called my vet. He can't make it out until tomorrow morning at 9, but he sounded concerned that it may be white line disease, or abscesses. He did say it could be a nutritional thing, or maybe a bacterial infection other than white line.

So I asked the vet what I could do in the meantime, he said clean the area with peroxide or iodine (I chose peroxide). When I did this, the area bubbled like crazy, but my horse did not even flinch. The area is slightly warm, but no pain indicated, it is still hard and firm. I picked all 4 feet, no signs of infection from the inside. My horse is not sore, or lethargic. He is still his mischievous self. Still eating and drinking, and licking his salt block.

He recently had a hock injection and shots (3 weeks ago), was wormed on the 1st of April with generic Ivermectin, had his feet done last week. I did find a tick on him (don't know if that matters) and removed it with no problems. He's shedding out normally, and besides his hooves, seems completely normal.

I attached a few pictures from my phone of each foot. Of all of them, the back right seems the worst.

Anybody seen this before? Any ideas what it could be? I'm a little worried..

(From top left going clockwise - Back Left, Back Right, Front Right, Front Left)
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File Type: jpg Back Left Hoof.jpg (44.1 KB, 589 views)
File Type: jpg Back Right Hoof.jpg (46.0 KB, 576 views)
File Type: jpg Front Right Hoof.jpg (55.1 KB, 588 views)
File Type: jpg Front Left Hoof.jpg (46.3 KB, 600 views)
     
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    04-04-2012, 09:57 PM
  #2
Trained
The pics didn't turn out that great, but it kind of looks like the hooves (at least the back right) is sloughing. The exterior wall does seem to show significant changes in diet/health/environment -- that's the ring like ripples you see.

I'm glad you are having a professional come out. I'm subbing to follow this thread.
     
    04-04-2012, 10:15 PM
  #3
Yearling
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Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
The pics didn't turn out that great, but it kind of looks like the hooves (at least the back right) is sloughing. The exterior wall does seem to show significant changes in diet/health/environment -- that's the ring like ripples you see.

I'm glad you are having a professional come out. I'm subbing to follow this thread.

Yeah they were taken on my cell phone, but that's all I had at the time.

It is definitely weird that he is showing so much change in diet, there really hasn't been too much. We are putting him on grass, he transitioned from hay to full pasture slowly to prevent any issues (we had a weird winter and are having an even weirder spring). He has been in the same place since October. I did just finish a treatment for a mild case of thrush. It has been clear about a week now. His grain is the same (small amount, he's an easy keeper for the most part, although he did get a little ribby as of late), and he is on the same joint supplement as always. He has had the same hay all winter, and his feet are generally very good, as both the vet and farrier said when they saw him this past month. However, I have had him a little less than a year, and he was not very well taken care of in the past, so it is very possible that is where the rings are coming from.

I'm baffled personally. I am very eager to find out what is wrong. I am definitely thankful that we caught it this early, before pain or lethargy set in, if it ever does. I am skipping classes tomorrow to get this taken care of, and hopefully it will be something very treatable.

Oh the joys of spring! It seems every time I get him fixed, he develops a new thing for me to deal with (Hock injury, skin fungus, thrush, now this). Poor dude :(
     
    04-04-2012, 10:30 PM
  #4
Trained
Some changes are inevitable. Weather, footing -- these are things that just happen, but I would have been concerned about these feet a while back. The ripples demonstrate inconsistent growth.

I would be very interested in seeing the soles and side shots of these feet, but I'm sure the vet will have something interesting to say. What about your farrier? How is it that this was not noticed long before now? IMO, this doesn't just happen overnight. There would have been signs of trouble beforehand. Unless, maybe a sudden unknown dietary change -- too much selenium for example.

Anyway, you have someone coming now so let's see what they have to say. Good luck -- wishing the best for you and your horse.
     
    04-04-2012, 11:04 PM
  #5
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
Some changes are inevitable. Weather, footing -- these are things that just happen, but I would have been concerned about these feet a while back. The ripples demonstrate inconsistent growth.

I would be very interested in seeing the soles and side shots of these feet, but I'm sure the vet will have something interesting to say. What about your farrier? How is it that this was not noticed long before now? IMO, this doesn't just happen overnight. There would have been signs of trouble beforehand. Unless, maybe a sudden unknown dietary change -- too much selenium for example.

Anyway, you have someone coming now so let's see what they have to say. Good luck -- wishing the best for you and your horse.

I see ripples in just about every horse around here. I didn't think anything of them. I have had to change farriers since I moved Onyx in October. His feet do not grow very quickly, and this last trim was basically just to even things out. He seems to drag his feet a little, and they wear down quickly on their own. I did not see any issues until today, his feet looked normal until now. Of course, I am not a vet or farrier, so I may have missed some signs. But I have been checking his feet very often due to the thrush thing and being out on grass (I am very careful about preventing founder).

I did some research on the subject, could this have been caused from a bad trim? This farrier I used the last time was a newbie for me. Ugh so many possibilities!
     
    04-05-2012, 01:47 PM
  #6
Trained
Yes, ripples abound. To some degree that is normal; or perhaps I should say "usual." Since I put my horse on Hoffman's minerals almost a year ago, I have no more ripples! :)

Caused by a bad trim? Well, yes it could be, but it seems to me that a farrier would have had to be blind and have no sense of touch either to miss this. I'm sure by now (or soon) you have some response from your vet and I hope you will have a good farrier/trimmer on your side as well. I am just not as knowledgeable as others on this forum (loosie and horseman56 -- I hope that's the right one. It's Mark, anyway), so I won't pretend to understand sloughing to a great degree. I know if it was in my backyard, I would be looking for pro help as well.

What did the vet have to say today?
     
    04-05-2012, 02:33 PM
  #7
Yearling
Vet came, I started a new thread with new pics. Here is it:Update & Better Pictures - Peeling Hooves
     

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