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        06-13-2013, 07:55 PM
    I should mention he has an issue with his shoulder, to which the farrier commented that it will affect his hoof growth.. but I thought it was the other way around? So getting the feet right will help the shoulders ?
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        06-13-2013, 08:51 PM
    Green Broke
    Is he being treated for thrush currently? If not, I'd do so. If you plan to take his shoes off, he will definitely be lame because of the thrush eating up his frogs. Is his shoulder impairment a conformational issue, or an old injury? An imbalance in his his hooves could cause some shoulder soreness. How long has he had his shoulder issue?
        06-13-2013, 08:54 PM
    Originally Posted by Kayella    
    Is he being treated for thrush currently? If not, I'd do so. If you plan to take his shoes off, he will definitely be lame because of the thrush eating up his frogs. Is his shoulder impairment a conformational issue, or an old injury? An imbalance in his his hooves could cause some shoulder soreness. How long has he had his shoulder issue?
    I believe it's an old injury but we just aren't sure. His past history is very much a mystery except the past 3 years. I never heard anything about it from farriers previously, nor vets, however it could have been easily missed. The way the current vet and farrier describe it is an old injury, so that's what I'm going to refer to it as.
        06-13-2013, 10:14 PM
    Green Broke
    I think it definitely could affect hoof growth. I think it would be very similar to a conformational defect such as turned out knees or toes. They have a different way of going, so they have a different way of wearing their hoof. If that makes sense? It would be like someone walking on the outside of their feet. The outside of their shoes are going to wear thin quicker than the inside of their shoes as that's where all the weight/pressure is.
        06-13-2013, 10:17 PM
    Definitely makes sense, but still the fact that his feet look due for a trim when he had them done less than 3 weeks ago..
        06-13-2013, 10:29 PM
    Green Broke
    Yes, he definitely need to be cleaned up. His white line is stretched(all the flaring as a result). How long has this particular farrier been doing his feet? Did anything change about his turnout/feed/anything different happen 3~ months ago? Do you see that growth ring on his front feet about half way down? Do you see how the top half is a better matching angle to his pastern than the bottom half? The laminae in the bottom half, due to the stretched white line and flaring, is pulling away from the hoof wall. This can cause discomfort. The laminae is like velcro holding the hoof wall onto the hoof capsule. The top half is growing in tighter which means he's growing some healthy hooves. But the flaring and long toes need to be addressed to keep them healthy. It's like a trickle effect, the long toes and flaring. It alters the overall condition of the foot and not just the bottom.
        06-13-2013, 10:34 PM
    Umm a few things, this would be February right?

    I came down to visit him
    He got a new saddle
    He changed boarding facilities around 2 months ago so he got better turnout
    He has been with this farrier I believe this entire year but my friend will have to check.


    Thank you for explaining this to me. I am having a second, well liked farrier (who charges $$$ for his quality work) come out and look at Sky and see about trimming him. I'll also see if they can start treating his thrush so it's completely gone.
        06-13-2013, 11:02 PM
    Green Broke
    That makes sense. I would think the better turnout is having good effects on his feet, which reflects the new, healthier, hoof growth. :) The more turnout and exercise he gets, the more blood flow circulates through his feet. His new hoof growth is right on track, nice and tight. His toes need to be backed up and his heels put back up under him in order to keep the new growth from pulling away. It's definitely an easy fix with the right trimming method, it just takes a while because a new hoof has to be grown out. Once the laminae stretches away from the hoof wall, you can't suck it back.
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        06-13-2013, 11:35 PM
    So what would the next trim look like? I'm guessing it will take 3-4 or possibly more trims to get his feet where they should be?

    I'm not sure what you mean by toes backed up.. but do understand the heels put back under him. Having the shoe positioned more back accomplishes that, yes?
        06-13-2013, 11:43 PM
    Green Broke
    Backing up the toe means shortening it. Depending on how quickly he grows his feet will determine when his feet will grow out. I don't know how you would fix under run heels with shoes on them. Usually you would back the toe up for a faster break over which relieves pressure on the heels and allows them to straighten out a bit rather than shooting forward.
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